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Is the Tiger 1 op?

  1. Yes (15 votes [39.47%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 39.47%

  2. No (14 votes [36.84%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 36.84%

  3. Maybe (9 votes [23.68%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 23.68%

Is the Tiger P op?

  1. Yes (26 votes [68.42%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 68.42%

  2. No (10 votes [26.32%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 26.32%

  3. Maybe (2 votes [5.26%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 5.26%

Is the T-29 op?

  1. Yes (7 votes [18.42%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 18.42%

  2. No (24 votes [63.16%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 63.16%

  3. Maybe (7 votes [18.42%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 18.42%

Is the IS op?

  1. Yes (3 votes [7.89%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 7.89%

  2. No (28 votes [73.68%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 73.68%

  3. Maybe (7 votes [18.42%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 18.42%

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Jonny_applesauce #1 Posted 19 January 2018 - 09:53 PM

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Just want to know what the general opinion on tier 7 heavies is, in particular these 4. A case could be made for several others, but as these are the ones I see most often and have the most fun in, I decided to limit the topic to the Tiger 1, Tiger P, IS, and T-29.

 

After all 4 received buffs in 4.5, I have been having 2K dmg game after 2K dmg game with regular 3K dmg games and the odd 4K dmg game here and there. (obviously some low dmg games as well)

Tiger 1 and Tiger P have insanely good guns, coupled with decent armor and solid mobility in one and great armor with adequate mobility in the other.

 

The T-29 has a great gun, with alpha, pen, and decent rate of fire and we all know what that thing is capable of when it goes hull down. Did 4.2 K earlier today in a Kolobanov attempt in the T29. Killed a panther and an SU 152 but then died to guess what? a Tiger 1 after facehugging him and getting him down to a one shot :( almost.

 

And the IS. The combination of armor and mobility is absolutely amazing......... and its really hard to go wrong with 400 alpha dmg and troll Russian accuracy.

 

So what is it with these tanks? Do they just fit my playstyle? Am I just getting lucky? Are other ppl able to take them out in tier 7 tanks or do they dominate every battle like I think they might?

 

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Edited by Jonny_applesauce, 19 January 2018 - 09:55 PM.

WoT blitz is better than WoT PC imho because no arty and +/- 1 mm.

 

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__Seal__ #2 Posted 19 January 2018 - 09:58 PM

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The tiger and tiger p, certainly. The t29, probably. The IS, no. Its on par or slightly above. 

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Rum_Tanker #3 Posted 19 January 2018 - 10:04 PM

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View Post__Seal__, on 19 January 2018 - 04:58 PM, said:

The tiger and tiger p, certainly. The t29, probably. The IS, no. Its on par or slightly above. 

 

I agree with this. Since the update, these 3 are a blast.


 


Pastaguy2003 #4 Posted 19 January 2018 - 10:08 PM

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The IS doesn't have amazing armour, and I always hit the cupola on the t29 in my tiger 1.  The new meta is now german bias

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Luc____ #5 Posted 19 January 2018 - 10:12 PM

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I love my Tiger O(P). Hell of a tank. Amazing gun, and the armor is fantastic. Many t6's will have trouble penning you, even with pramo. LOL.
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Jonny_applesauce #6 Posted 19 January 2018 - 10:20 PM

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View PostPastaguy2003, on 19 January 2018 - 10:08 PM, said:

The IS doesn't have amazing armour, and I always hit the cupola on the t29 in my tiger 1.  The new meta is now german bias

 

I didn't say the IS had amazing armor, but the level of armor it does have combined with the level of mobility is what makes it good IMO.

 


WoT blitz is better than WoT PC imho because no arty and +/- 1 mm.

 

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Vacazion #7 Posted 19 January 2018 - 10:32 PM

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View Post__Seal__, on 19 January 2018 - 01:58 PM, said:

The tiger and tiger p, certainly. The t29, probably. The IS, no. Its on par or slightly above. 

 

Also agree.  I’m playing a lot of tiger 1.  I don’t think I’ve ever seen such an OP tank. That RoF/DPM is silly at that tier.  Add that gun handling, mobility and armor - OMG OP.  When I can go heads up on any tier 8 Russian heavy and dpm trade and easily win, it’s broken.  Greater pen than my beloved mod 1 at tier 8.  Enjoy it while it lasts.  I’d think about permanently enriching that tank if it didn’t have such a great nerf potential.  I’d normally be quiet about this, but stats are quickly going to prove it out.  It’s not exactly a secret.

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Jonny_applesauce #8 Posted 19 January 2018 - 10:35 PM

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My biggest question is how is WG going to nerf Tiger 1/P if they do nerf. It wouldn't make any sense to just undo the buffs from 4.5.......... what is the plan I wonder

WoT blitz is better than WoT PC imho because no arty and +/- 1 mm.

 

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KingxChuck #9 Posted 19 January 2018 - 10:38 PM

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Black Prince needs more love.

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Jonny_applesauce #10 Posted 19 January 2018 - 10:45 PM

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View PostKingxChuck, on 19 January 2018 - 10:38 PM, said:

Black Prince needs more love.

 

no question about that lol...... barely better reload than Tigers w/ 60 less alpha and 25 less pen............. UnderPowered PLz buff

WoT blitz is better than WoT PC imho because no arty and +/- 1 mm.

 

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4sfield #11 Posted 19 January 2018 - 11:02 PM

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  Am I the only one who voted no on all 4? Seriously, none of those tanks are OP.

 

 

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Mullet_cat #12 Posted 19 January 2018 - 11:11 PM

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View Post4sfield, on 19 January 2018 - 11:02 PM, said:

  Am I the only one who voted no on all 4? Seriously, none of those tanks are OP.

 

if You can't see that these tanks are OP then you probably think the 183 is balanced for dynamic gameplay

Pastaguy2003 #13 Posted 19 January 2018 - 11:19 PM

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View PostJonny_applesauce, on 19 January 2018 - 10:20 PM, said:

 

I didn't say the IS had amazing armor, but the level of armor it does have combined with the level of mobility is what makes it good IMO.

 

 

It is only fast driving in a straight line.  It has crap traverse

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goog1967 #14 Posted 19 January 2018 - 11:32 PM

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These heavies were buffed so they could compete with all the Fake OP clown tanks at tier 7...and now they can!!

__Seal__ #15 Posted 19 January 2018 - 11:57 PM

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The IS has mediocre armor, mediocre speed, mediocre gun. The update helped it a little bit, but it is in no way comparable to the other 3 tanks.

 

View Post4sfield, on 19 January 2018 - 11:02 PM, said:

  Am I the only one who voted no on all 4? Seriously, none of those tanks are OP.

 

 Have you played any (of the first 3) after the buff? Thats what I thought at first when I hadn’t tried them yet. Its a whole different story once you’re inside the commander’s hatch. 


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4sfield #16 Posted 20 January 2018 - 01:31 AM

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View Post__Seal__, on 19 January 2018 - 06:57 PM, said:

 Have you played any (of the first 3) after the buff? Thats what I thought at first when I hadn’t tried them yet. Its a whole different story once you’re inside the commander’s hatch. 

 

View PostMullet_cat, on 19 January 2018 - 06:11 PM, said:

 

if You can't see that these tanks are OP then you probably think the 183 is balanced for dynamic gameplay

 

  I’ve played the Tiger I since the buff. It’s good and better than it was before but no better than an IS and the IS isn’t OP. I’d say the IS is still the strongest of the 4 though. The T29 is the weakest. I don’t play heavies nearly as much as I play against heavies and while the buffed Tiger guns are a little more potent, they’re not any harder to kill.

 

  I wouldn’t call them OP. I think the M6A2E1 is the best tier VII heavy.


Edited by 4sfield, 20 January 2018 - 01:35 AM.

 

 

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Jonny_applesauce #17 Posted 20 January 2018 - 01:54 AM

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My stats in these tanks (I have a 61% wr overall)

Tiger - 37 battles - 70% wr

Tiger P - 45 battles - 57% (remember  I had to grind it stock bcause I unlocked the 8.8 on it.)

T29 - 150 battles - 58% (again had to grind stock but did unlock the 90 on the m6)

IS - 193 battles - drumroll..... 65% winrate 

 

So I guess the Tigers r borderline op, and T29 and IS are just my playstyle


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SanguinaryDan #18 Posted 22 January 2018 - 08:49 PM

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I don’t feel any of those tanks is OP.  The Tiger I has joke armor as it’s all vertical. The Tiger ( P ) is easily outmaneuvered and has a massive profile from the side. The T29 still takes forever to reload a gun with mediocre pen and accuracy. I don’t have an IS anymore but they’ve never been scary.  

 

I’m guessing that the upcoming nerfs to the Tigers will cost them 2-3 rpm.  It was silly that the 88L71 had a higher RoF than the 88L56 in the same turret. Longer shells and a bigger breach do not increase the speed at which you can feed a gun.


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View PostPastaguy2003, on 19 January 2018 - 05:08 PM, said:

The IS doesn't have amazing armour, and I always hit the cupola on the t29 in my tiger 1.  The new meta is now german bias

 

they new meta is people simply YOLO and doing minimal damage.

 

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View Post4sfield, on 19 January 2018 - 08:31 PM, said:

 

 

  I’ve played the Tiger I since the buff. It’s good and better than it was before but no better than an IS and the IS isn’t OP. I’d say the IS is still the strongest of the 4 though. The T29 is the weakest. I don’t play heavies nearly as much as I play against heavies and while the buffed Tiger guns are a little more potent, they’re not any harder to kill.

 

  I wouldn’t call them OP. I think the M6A2E1 is the best tier VII heavy.

 

Um, no. The M6A2E1 is OP but once it’s versus 2 tanks at close ish range they get smacked easily. I was battling one in a 2v4, me in a hellcat and my friendly in an IS. We killed a T43, a T20 and had to fight a very healthy Tiger 1 that wasn’t fully upgraded, but potent. We also had to fight this M6A2E1. They surprisingly split apart, and we found the tiger, I sniped his engine and lit him up. I am in half health, and the IS is very low, at 300 HP. As we drive a round looking for the M6, we found him hull down in a perfect for him 1v2. He killed the IS, and through out skirmish, brought him down to 211 HP. He was skilled, I will say. Although, the sides are gruesomely thin and the tracks are exposed. I shot his track, baited his shot, and flanked him. Every time I see the M6, I shoot the tracks, spam the sides and get cheeky turret shots, they’re not hard to hit. I think the best tier 7 heavy is the Tiger. I always see them do well. Especially the Porsche.


 

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