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SanguinaryDan #1 Posted 29 January 2018 - 03:07 AM

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Seriously.  What do the game developers have against the T69?  

 

It’s the absolute worst Medium tank in its Tier.  Possibly the worst American Medium period.  The gun has almost no penetration with standard AP and the lowest DPM in its class.  The HEAT shells are expensive and pretty much the only way you can actually penetrate anything from the front. It’s sluggish on its tracks and has a poor hp/ton ratio even though the turret rotates reasonably quickly. The armor seems better modeled to catch shells than deflect them.  And to add insult to injury it even has a piss poor 83% credit ratio.

 

So while tanks that need no help (coughT-62Acough) are getting pointless buffs the T69 remains the red headed step child of Medium tanks.  I realize that there has to be a best and a worst.  But does the T69 have to be so bad that you’d rather throw away the shoe than scrape it off the bottom?


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conjay810 #3 Posted 29 January 2018 - 03:16 AM

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The devs know that good players do well in autoloaders, so they make autoloaders trash to compensate. No rewards for skill here boys, lets all drive 183s.

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It's not that bad. It doesn't excel at anything, but it can hold it's own. It could use a small pen buff or change the prammo to APCR.

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Storm216 #5 Posted 29 January 2018 - 03:43 AM

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What? It’s not that bad

wannabeunicum #6 Posted 29 January 2018 - 04:16 AM

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View PostStorm216, on 29 January 2018 - 03:43 AM, said:

What? It’s not that bad

 

The fact that many tier 8 meds can get 2 shots off in your 3 shots shows its bad.

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View PostStorm216, on 28 January 2018 - 10:43 PM, said:

What? It’s not that bad

Trash DPM, terrible clip potential, worst in tier pen,  and worst in class gun handling, with only mediocre mobility and armor shows its bad.

 

It needs 2 seconds between shells, and a slight clip reload buff. 2.5 is still too long


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Nooooo I just got this tenk !

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BakalovBoy #10 Posted 29 January 2018 - 01:30 PM

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After all they did end up bufffing the T54E1 with the increased pen which was VERY much needed.

Not sure why they haven’t done anything with the t69 as it stemmed to suffer from the same issue.

Mall_ninja42 #11 Posted 29 January 2018 - 02:30 PM

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Increased pen would help against tier 9 heavies and make the stock E1 less trashy for sure. Overall tho, I found the t69 a rather painless grind. I figure any buff would allow better players to abuse the hell out of it.

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View PostSanguinaryDan, on 29 January 2018 - 03:07 AM, said:

Seriously.  What do the game developers have against the T69?  

 

It’s the absolute worst Medium tank in its Tier.  Possibly the worst American Medium period.  The gun has almost no penetration with standard AP and the lowest DPM in its class.  The HEAT shells are expensive and pretty much the only way you can actually penetrate anything from the front. It’s sluggish on its tracks and has a poor hp/ton ratio even though the turret rotates reasonably quickly. The armor seems better modeled to catch shells than deflect them.  And to add insult to injury it even has a piss poor 83% credit ratio.

 

So while tanks that need no help (coughT-62Acough) are getting pointless buffs the T69 remains the red headed step child of Medium tanks.  I realize that there has to be a best and a worst.  But does the T69 have to be so bad that you’d rather throw away the shoe than scrape it off the bottom?

 

Well said. But I will not hold my breath. As well, reloading times are a serious joke, it takes an eternity to reload shells that should be done much quicker. Reduce the damage and give those tanks a fighting chance. You know which ones.

 



NaDa_22 #13 Posted 29 January 2018 - 05:16 PM

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I played mine back when it had 3.0 sec inter-clip reload.

 

It is what it is. Enjoy the slightly improved version. It will never be a great tank - unless WG buffs it crazy amount, but given their take on Autoloaders thus far - I don't see it happening. 



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View PostSanguinaryDan, on 29 January 2018 - 03:07 AM, said:

Seriously.  What do the game developers have against the T69?  

 

It’s the absolute worst Medium tank in its Tier.  Possibly the worst American Medium period.  The gun has almost no penetration with standard AP and the lowest DPM in its class.  The HEAT shells are expensive and pretty much the only way you can actually penetrate anything from the front. It’s sluggish on its tracks and has a poor hp/ton ratio even though the turret rotates reasonably quickly. The armor seems better modeled to catch shells than deflect them.  And to add insult to injury it even has a piss poor 83% credit ratio.

 

So while tanks that need no help (coughT-62Acough) are getting pointless buffs the T69 remains the red headed step child of Medium tanks.  I realize that there has to be a best and a worst.  But does the T69 have to be so bad that you’d rather throw away the shoe than scrape it off the bottom?

 

It appears that you have issues with autoloaders in general.  I don't disagree with some of the points above, but it isn't a bad tank, and a buff would make it OP.

wannabeunicum #15 Posted 29 January 2018 - 05:47 PM

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View PostBakalovBoy, on 29 January 2018 - 01:30 PM, said:

After all they did end up bufffing the T54E1 with the increased pen which was VERY much needed.

Not sure why they haven’t done anything with the t69 as it stemmed to suffer from the same issue.

 

i hardly call reducing clip potential a buff. Id argue its slightly better but nerfing the clip potential hurts autoloaders greatly

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Played mine with super uni stats, I admit it wasn’t very fun, but it did get the job done for the most part.

dport02 #17 Posted 29 January 2018 - 05:59 PM

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I thought you could research t54e1 with combined xp with t49 but when I found out that wasn’t the case, I rage sold it.

dport02 #18 Posted 29 January 2018 - 06:00 PM

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America has some pretty bad tier 8s.

SanguinaryDan #19 Posted 29 January 2018 - 06:34 PM

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View Postr3cursion, on 29 January 2018 - 12:44 PM, said:

 

It appears that you have issues with autoloaders in general.  I don't disagree with some of the points above, but it isn't a bad tank, and a buff would make it OP.

 

Yes and no.  I find them much more difficult to be consistent in as I still can get caught out by the vicious combo of RNG and long reload. Nothing worse than that one sub-average damage roll that leaves you at the mercy of the guy you just left on 5 hp after clipping out. 

 

My problem with the T69 is based on poor penetration and a weak engine. Either can be dealt with.  But in combination at Tier VIII?  Not good at all. 


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BakalovBoy #20 Posted 29 January 2018 - 07:37 PM

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View Postwannabeunicum, on 29 January 2018 - 11:47 AM, said:

 

i hardly call reducing clip potential a buff. Id argue its slightly better but nerfing the clip potential hurts autoloaders greatly

 

No they also buffed the pen on the T54E1 top gun by 10mm or so which was quite helpful especially when paired with calibrated shells.







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