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[__Frostbite]

GableHawk, on 08 February 2018 - 09:48 AM, said:

What a d!ck move kicking out Space Ape!

 

Seems very petty and childish and now stubborn for not letting him back in.

 

Maybe if you took the time to read Mike’s decision making, you wouldn’t say such stupid things. 

[__The_Dude_30__]

I_Maverick_I, on 08 February 2018 - 03:35 PM, said:

 

Maybe if you took the time to read Mike’s decision making, you wouldn’t say such stupid things. 

 

But what if Mike is assuming Space Apes intentions for upvoting this thread? He says that Space Ape was kicked out because he was bashing PRAMO and “biting the hand that feeds him”. But Ape says that he was doing this simply because he agreed with the praising of other clans for being positive. There is no proof that Space Ape was doing this to bash PRAMO. Maybe YOU should read the whole debate and see all of the viewpoints before forming a conclusion. And Gable, yes, I feel it is [edited]as well.

Edited by __The_Dude_30__, 08 February 2018 - 08:57 PM.

[Shin1297]

I_Maverick_I, on 08 February 2018 - 08:35 PM, said:

 

Maybe if you took the time to read Mike’s decision making, you wouldn’t say such stupid things. 

 

I still think its too rash. As far as I can tell Space ape merely upvoted this thread because of the "thanking" And I doubt the thought of this being a rant post about pramo didnt even crossed his mind. This thread is like the glass half full half empty thing. It depends on the readers view of point

[Fishy___]

Shin1297, on 08 February 2018 - 02:57 PM, said:

 

I still think its too rash. As far as I can tell Space ape merely upvoted this thread because of the "thanking" And I doubt the thought of this being a rant post about pramo didnt even crossed his mind. This thread is like the glass half full half empty thing. It depends on the readers view of point

Considering the statement issued by the OP on this subject...

[TonnerreCadien]

Shin1297, on 08 February 2018 - 02:57 PM, said:

I still think its too rash. As far as I can tell Space ape merely upvoted this thread because of the "thanking" And I doubt the thought of this being a rant post about pramo didnt even crossed his mind. This thread is like the glass half full half empty thing. It depends on the readers view of point

^^^^^^ this. Think about it. Guy upvotes a post, and gets booted from a clan because of it. Let that sink in a bit. That's not leadership, Maverick, that's bull- [edited]. You can wrap it up in ribbons and put perfume on it, but at the end of the day it still smells like [edited]. I can't imagine being so thin-skinned that I would boot one of my clan's members for a single upvote of a critical post on the forum. Pathetic.

[Shin1297]

Fishy_, on 08 February 2018 - 09:08 PM, said:

Considering the statement issued by the OP on this subject...

 

Last time I checked the statement came AFTER this thread got out of control, So the op may have bashed pramo using a somewhat sarcastic Title but you cant expect everyone to guess the OP's real intentions. He too wss just a victim. He is the hansel and gretel that just wants to eat candy. Did hansel and gretel know that the witch's true intention of building a candy house was to lure children in and eat them?

[reluctanttheist]

Space is a class act.  Kicking him out of FLOOP is unwise, because it shows that this is a clan that doesn't even allow for small missteps like this.

 

Whatever input PRAMO/PURPL/FLOOP gives to these forums about tanks or tactics is invaluable, and they have influence here and with WG.  It is thus unfortunate that they treat people like Space so harshly.  As someone who has long worked with community and professional teams and organizations, I would say it's not a constructive means of building a team.  You overlook petty stuff like this to focus on the people and their potential, not their minor mistakes.

[_Crusader6_]

mike82198, on 08 February 2018 - 02:25 AM, said:

 

I find grace in withholding judgment on matters that I'm not informed enough to discuss. Shoot me on the day I start telling other clans on the forums how to conduct their business. 

 

 

Someone get me a time machine.   I’ve got a date with the Mike from about 3 years ago

[___ez_e___]

reluctanttheist, on 08 February 2018 - 05:03 PM, said:

Space is a class act.  Kicking him out of FLOOP is unwise, because it shows that this is a clan that doesn't even allow for small missteps like this.

 

 

X2.  

 

He’s a class act and would be an asset to any clan. 

 

 

[_Crusader6_]

Space is a cool dude.   

 

The optics of kicking him for what I don’t see as a hit on any specific clan is pretty weird. 

   Obviously the leadership can do what it wants, but it’s not going to make anyone think warm and fuzzy’s.  

 

Secondly: Pramo and Purpl helped many clans (III included) with CW and Tournament prep.  

    The vast majority of them want to help the community.  

  However the vast majority of the playerbase is beyond help, and actively pushes away any offer of a life vest when they are drowning. 

 

 

 

[sparse_array]

PRAMO members get more salt than any other clan. It’s like they’ve become the lightning rod for clan dissatisfaction. They work very hard to be excellent competitively. All clans make mistakes; most of them are hidden from public view. Meet some of their members. They are Blitz lovers like all of us. And like all clans, comprised mostly of people you’d like if you got to know them. In the interest of community, let’s join all clans in making this community better. 

[BobboEvans]

I’m gonna put this out there.  Many in PRAMO including concep and Mike8 specifically have helped me out more than I EVER would have expected.  While I’m a long time player, I am not close to their caliber.  For them to take time, platoon, advise, and often yell at me for my stupidity was (for me) extremely valuable.  All I did was be cordial with them and they went out of their way to try to make me a better player.  Not ONE other clan did that for me.  That’s not a cut on other clans (I’m an admittedly solo player).  For me, it just speaks to the PRAMO that people seem to ignore.

My 2¢

[UE_10]

PRAMO hate thread I see..... When you stand at the top, it is easy for people to throw stones at your feet.

 

I had a policy of platooning with almost anyone... win rate didn't matter. Seeing as how the community hates us I guess I will stick to platooning and saying hello to my own kind from now on.

Edited by ScumbagJuJu, 08 February 2018 - 11:31 PM.

[reluctanttheist]

I don't actually think there's a lot of people who hate PRAMO.  I really enjoyed seeing them compete in this year's games.  And so many of them still help this playerbase improve.  What I'd like to see for the culture of the game, and all clans within it, to be one of building people up and not tearing down.  

 

Enough with the gauntlets, buy your fellow humans a beer instead. 

Edited by reluctanttheist, 08 February 2018 - 11:38 PM.

[Eire1916]

has anyone seen my apple pie,,

[SlavianBlood]

hmmm.. im not judging anyone, with this or that clan tag, it doesnt matters for me.. but saying that there is 1 single clan wich is root of all evil its.. heh.. nevermind. If we talk exctly about PRAMO, i cant say i was harmed by any of them in any way except being in enemy team. I understand that some people dont like them just because of their “elite” status, because of some conficts in past etc, but saying all PRAMO members are bad is overshooting. In every basket You can find bad apples  I have great Friend in PRAMO, funny, witty, cheerfull guy, always willing to help, always providing good advices and helpfull tips 

[Ericmopar]

Click for my innermost feelings.

Edited by Ericmopar, 09 February 2018 - 12:16 PM.

[reluctanttheist]

PRAMO members who come to mind right off, whom I'd like to tank for constructive content on the forums:​ Defaultz, ScumbagJuJu, RH131, iRaikkonen, Pasdxd, Ksftwe, AX70, Mike, _Fishy, Minecraftexpert_25.  Might be missing a few names.  But - good job guys.  Thanks from those of us who read and learn.

[VonMiller58]

reluctanttheist, on 09 February 2018 - 12:47 AM, said:

PRAMO members who come to mind right off, whom I'd like to tank for constructive content on the forums:​ Defaultz, ScumbagJuJu, RH131, iRaikkonen, Pasdxd, Ksftwe, AX70, Mike, _Fishy, Minecraftexpert_25.  Might be missing a few names.  But - good job guys.  Thanks from those of us who read and learn.

[VonMiller58]

Ericmopar, on 09 February 2018 - 12:30 AM, said:

 

could you make that smaller?