Gavidoc01, on 09 February 2018 - 03:12 PM, said:
So my eyes hurt but I read every last post and I have to say, Mike and those from Pramo who have participated in this topic have actually conducted themselves in a better manner than others in this thread. John 8:7 folks.
I've read a lot of comments from people saying that Pramo players are jerks. That they rage etc. etc. Yet I ask, How many of you all have raged as well? Just because they are in a Competitive Clan does that mean they are held to different standards than you? I say no.
What I have seen since joining this game in 2014 is this my personal opinion but what I've witnessed: The original version of Pramo (for the life of me I can't remember the original name) was made of bad people with a few bright spots. Overall they were just bad, egotistical and overall had disdain for others. I experienced it more than once and in many instances even got it when I sent one of their players a GG. The best for me was the response of: "STFU. I don't need your praise."
Then things started to change in late 2015 beginning of 2016. Pramo players (Think you were NE or something at the time) started to interact more. Were easier to deal with and overall just a better bunch. I'd say it was a 50/50 interaction between "Thanks" and "STFU" players in the clan. In 2017, the pendulum flipped to the other end. More and more I see pramo and purpl players offering advice in game. Trying to get the teams to go a direction and even sending thanks and GG's after battles. Yeah there is still the occasional rager but honestly all clans have that (even me).
Overall I'd say the Pramo family of today is NOTHING like the original group and is much better as a result of it. Those who have been in the clan for a while have matured and grown.
Now for the Pramo players involved in this thread. Yes you have a history to your clan that you need to overcome. A large number of you guys as a clan were horrible to people 3 years ago. Absolutely horrible. That unfortunately has grown into mythological proportions. Acknowledging your past and that you have addressed that will go a long way.
Majority of players probably don't even know Pramo. Majority of players on the forums do and there is a subset of that majority who have been here since almost the beginning who have seen what Pramo was and what they are today. The others haven't and have just heard the "stories."
PRAMO of today is nothing like the original group because it simply isn’t the original group. There’s about a dozen OGs from the crop of 2014-2016: Concep, A7, KS, Minecraft, Terradayy, Naser, Minecraft... not a group made famous for unhinged raging. The vast majority of the clans’ current members joined mid 2016 and onward. I wasn’t in KRIEG from the outset and I vividly remember being on the receiving end of the STFU USUCK people; I despised them and, upon joining two years later, had the pleasure of kicking out a few of them.
By the way: the cool new forum alt is our old friend Knight350. This thread isn’t not even his finest showing. This was a masterpiece.
http://forum.wotblitz.com/index.php?/topic/87933-best-player-in-blitz/#topmost
While he tried to hide his identity he is on an alt for a practical reason: original account is banned.