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Poll: Neutered Hellcat needs buff (24 members have cast votes)

Does the M18 Hellcat need a mobility buff?

  1. Oh god, yes!!! make it feared! (9 votes [37.50%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 37.50%

  2. No, I like the neutered cat (15 votes [62.50%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 62.50%

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CrazyHunter13 #1 Posted 15 February 2018 - 05:03 AM

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The mobility on this supposed "speedy" cat is horrible! At all means it shouldn't be able to be easily cod yet it is. The traverse on both maxed tracks and turret sucks balls and it is beyond slower than its pc counterpart. How in the hell did you screw this up WG! This thing has no armor, and its gun is only useful if you survive long enough to use it to the max potential. So what leaves is the mobility, the thing the original pc hellcat was known for. Yet when it was ported to Blitz, it was deemed "too fast" and was dramatically slowed down. Now its beyond powercreeped as there are a ton more tanks out there that is "too fast" for the game.

Edited by CrazyHunter13, 15 February 2018 - 05:05 AM.


MudkipAtWar #2 Posted 15 February 2018 - 05:08 AM

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It's fine. I play it regularly as a free XP grinder. It's not a medium tank. It's a td with good camo and speed to move from position to position. You kemp bush until you need more targets and then you move to the next going 60. When there is about 4-3 reds left at half hp you go and wreak havoc, finishing them off. The gun is more than adequate, having good penetration, accuracy, alpha, and reload, my favorite gun at the tier. The mobility is fine too. 60 kmh is nothing to sneeze at for a td with great camo.

 

P.S. If you want an alpha med go get a t-34-85. Blitz is not pc and the hellcat has changed roles a bit. It still can brawl fine if you choose to, you have to play smart though. Also what you're proposing is a tank with very good speed, traverse, alpha, dpm, camo, and turret armor. This would break tier 6.


Edited by MudkipAtWar, 15 February 2018 - 05:12 AM.

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LenkTwins #3 Posted 15 February 2018 - 05:12 AM

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No. It's good enough.(For me at least)

 

Did you say you get CoDed? Really? And I thought it was known for it's view range on PC. If anything, they should make it's DPM nearer to the Jackson. 5.6 seconds to 7.2. They should bring it down to at least 6.8(that would be with the provisions + rammer).


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LautyWX #4 Posted 15 February 2018 - 05:15 AM

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u cant circle things on the hellcat,u snipe and stay away from all enemy guns,and his top speed is 65km/h so you can get positions fast,look minimap and the enemy tank list to predict their movements,stay behind ur team and dont get killed,use camo,and the brain too.

 

the hellcat isnt a brawler.


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MudkipAtWar #5 Posted 15 February 2018 - 05:15 AM

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View PostLenkTwins, on 15 February 2018 - 12:12 AM, said:

No. It's good enough.(For me at least)

 

Did you say you get CoDed? Really? And I thought it was known for it's view range on PC. If anything, they should make it's DPM nearer to the Jackson. 5.6 seconds to 7.2. They should bring it down to at least 6.8(that would be with the provisions + rammer).

I have never had a problem with coding, idk what OP is doing but I am usually the one doing it. :P


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CrazyHunter13 #6 Posted 15 February 2018 - 05:16 AM

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View PostMudkipAtWar, on 15 February 2018 - 12:08 AM, said:

It's fine. I play it regularly as a free XP grinder. It's not a medium tank. It's a td with good camo and speed to move from position to position. You kemp bush until you need more targets and then you move to the next going 60. When there is about 4-3 reds left at half hp you go and wreak havoc, finishing them off. The gun is more than adequate, having good penetration, accuracy, alpha, and reload, my favorite gun at the tier. The mobility is fine too. 60 kmh is nothing to sneeze at for a td with great camo.

 

P.S. If you want an alpha med go get a t-34-85. Blitz is not pc and the hellcat has changed roles a bit. It still can brawl fine if you choose to, you have to play smart though. Also what you're proposing is a tank with very good speed, traverse, alpha, dpm, camo, and turret armor. This would break tier 6.

 

kinda hard lately to play the hellcat like the td it is. With a lot of the teams I'm having; if I don't try to treat it like a support medium, using a teammate as peek a boom cover. I might as well drown myself when I can as they all die shortly after match start. If a speedy tier 7 light catches you off guard, you're [edited]. Happened twice already in a row where I was sniping and an amx light comes out of nowhere and cods me to death.



MudkipAtWar #7 Posted 15 February 2018 - 05:18 AM

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View PostCrazyHunter13, on 15 February 2018 - 12:16 AM, said:

 

kinda hard lately to play the hellcat like the td it is. With a lot of the teams I'm having; if I don't try to treat it like a support medium, using a teammate as peek a boom cover. I might as well drown myself when I can as they all die shortly after match start. If a speedy tier 7 light catches you off guard, you're [edited]. Happened twice already in a row where I was sniping and an amx light comes out of nowhere and cods me to death.

Well, pay attention to the minimap, relocate often, etc. Teams can't die if you kill reds before they kill team.


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LautyWX #8 Posted 15 February 2018 - 05:19 AM

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View PostMudkipAtWar, on 15 February 2018 - 02:18 AM, said:

Well, pay attention to the minimap, relocate often, etc. Teams can't die if you kill reds before they kill team.

 

or find a platoon mate who can spot for u
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MudkipAtWar #9 Posted 15 February 2018 - 05:20 AM

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30-60-90 day averages

Stat
Period
 
30 days
60 days
90 days
Rank/Position
9
8 damn, I didn't think I was THAT good in this, oof
15
Winrate
69.49%
65.71%
65.71%
Battles
59
70
70
Damage per battle
1,355
1,271
1,271
Damage ratio
1.95
1.79
1.79
KDR
2.61
2.14
2.14
Spots
1.68
1.61
1.61
WN8
3,543
3,222
3,222
WN7
1,929
1,801
1,801
 
my recent hellcat stats
 
carry harder
 
 

Edited by MudkipAtWar, 15 February 2018 - 05:27 AM.

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CrazyHunter13 #10 Posted 15 February 2018 - 05:21 AM

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View PostMudkipAtWar, on 15 February 2018 - 12:18 AM, said:

Well, pay attention to the minimap, relocate often, etc. Teams can't die if you kill reds before they kill team.

 

they do if all the team does is park in the open or block my shots. Frustrating to have a kill shot lined up just for a teammate to get in the way and die, forcing me to move to get a new shot lined up.

Edited by CrazyHunter13, 15 February 2018 - 05:22 AM.


MudkipAtWar #11 Posted 15 February 2018 - 05:25 AM

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View PostCrazyHunter13, on 15 February 2018 - 12:21 AM, said:

 

they do if all the team does is park in the open or block my shots. Frustrating to have a kill shot lined up just for a teammate to get in the way and die, forcing me to move to get a new shot lined up.

Looking at your stats in the hellcat, you are avging 949 damage in it. That is not a good number, try to bring it above 1000, also your spots should be a bit higher than .25, because you shouldn't snipe the WHOLE game, just the first part of the engagement.


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CrazyHunter13 #12 Posted 15 February 2018 - 05:28 AM

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The thing is I didn't do too bad in it when it was released. I know I'm missing some of my mojo but it just feels more sluggish to me now than before. I'm waiting on a dumb timer to fit it with camo netting, hopefully that helps. But I just don't know what to do on those games where by the time I reach a suitable snipping spot, 3-4 tanks on my team is already killed. :confused:

MudkipAtWar #13 Posted 15 February 2018 - 05:45 AM

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View PostCrazyHunter13, on 15 February 2018 - 12:28 AM, said:

The thing is I didn't do too bad in it when it was released. I know I'm missing some of my mojo but it just feels more sluggish to me now than before. I'm waiting on a dumb timer to fit it with camo netting, hopefully that helps. But I just don't know what to do on those games where by the time I reach a suitable snipping spot, 3-4 tanks on my team is already killed. :confused:

 

How? You go 60 kmh for heavens sake! You can make it to the other end of the map before the heavies engage! Surely you can pick a spot and reach it before someone dies unless some idiot wants to take a stroll next to that unicorn 152 platoon over to the right that we avoid.

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MudkipAtWar #14 Posted 15 February 2018 - 05:48 AM

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No offense, (oh look, offensive statement inbound excuse warning thingy) but I think this is a driver error rather than the tank. Multiple of us do absolutely fine, if not stellar. Maybe check out some guides?

Edited by MudkipAtWar, 15 February 2018 - 05:48 AM.

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WipWapJaws #15 Posted 15 February 2018 - 09:09 AM

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Your kidding right OP.  Its a fantastic tank, that is mostly balanced if not a bit OP.  Any TD will get into trouble if you let a red get too close 

Ferranzo_JesusLovesYou #16 Posted 15 February 2018 - 09:47 AM

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View PostMudkipAtWar, on 15 February 2018 - 12:20 AM, said:

30-60-90 day averages

Stat
Period
 
30 days
60 days
90 days
Rank/Position
9
8 damn, I didn't think I was THAT good in this, oof
15
Winrate
69.49%
65.71%
65.71%
Battles
59
70
70
Damage per battle
1,355
1,271
1,271
Damage ratio
1.95
1.79
1.79
KDR
2.61
2.14
2.14
Spots
1.68
1.61
1.61
WN8
3,543
3,222
3,222
WN7
1,929
1,801
1,801
 
my recent hellcat stats
 
carry harder
 
 

 

 

I have seen on multiple threads you are quick to give a quick answer. Maybe invite some of these guys to one of your clans and teach them? Community’s can advance, and it usually begins with that one person taking initiative


 


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tankeatingtiger #17 Posted 15 February 2018 - 12:44 PM

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I am 60%, 1200 dmg. I love it. Could it use a traverse buff? Yes. Is it desperately in need of it? Absolutely not.

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MudkipAtWar #18 Posted 15 February 2018 - 12:49 PM

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View PostFerranzo_JesusLovesYou, on 15 February 2018 - 04:47 AM, said:

 

 

I have seen on multiple threads you are quick to give a quick answer. Maybe invite some of these guys to one of your clans and teach them? Community’s can advance, and it usually begins with that one person taking initiative

 

I wouldnt mind tooning to show how to play it, thats a good idea. Op, ping me when im on if you want me to show you.

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_Panzer_V #19 Posted 15 February 2018 - 12:52 PM

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I think the hellcat day fine as it is, but a buff wouldn’t make me hate the tank
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cheasesteak #20 Posted 15 February 2018 - 01:00 PM

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I agree that the Hellcat is fine as is.  That said, I'd like to see an increase in top speed.  When it first came out, WG said that its speed was being reduced from its historical (and PC) value because the maps were too small for higher speeds ... and then a while later the released a bunch of light tanks with much higher speeds.  WG logic. 

 

It should get a top speed of 75 or 80 kph. 


 

 

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