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Poll: Should the Panther II Get a buff? (50 members have cast votes)

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Should it get a buff?

  1. Yes (38 votes [76.00%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 76.00%

  2. No (12 votes [24.00%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 24.00%

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j0nn0 #21 Posted 06 March 2018 - 01:27 PM

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I found it to be okay. Takes some getting used to for sure. At least it's better off than the SP1C, IMO. More reliable gun handling and enough armor to chance hail-mary bounces once in a while.

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RangerSBD #22 Posted 06 March 2018 - 01:48 PM

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Look, I use the panther II. It doesn't need a buff. It's first Tier 8 gun melts heavy armor like crazy with a 4.0 sec reload. Stop using the top tier gun unless you're in a platoon or clan battle. This is not PC. The panther II is NOT a Frontline tank. So armor does not matter. It can be one late game, but it will struggle against more than 2 enemies at a time. It is a snipe and support tank. The E50 and E50M have some of the bounciest armor in the game and will reward you with the fact you can be aggressive, and not be punished for it severely if you play right.

 

In 1v1, using the first Tier 8...I won against a maus. It has the same engine as the leopard. It accelerates pretty fast, it's lightwieght, it can flank, it can snipe, it can even sidescrape, suprisingly well too. The panther II is the most versatile tank except the Centurion, which has a beefy turret when maxed. I suggest trying to maybe you know...Not rush the enemy?



_Crusader6_ #23 Posted 06 March 2018 - 02:48 PM

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View Postclin328, on 06 March 2018 - 08:13 AM, said:

why not buff its armor? I feel like that tank never bounce shots

 

Angle...

 

As said before the P2 is not a front line brawler - it’s a great support tank due to the gun.  

  It can seize some areas and pen anything.  

Do not expose the lower front plate - as it and the E50 and anything else German with the front transmission will auto ignite for fun. 

 

The turret has great angles and isnt huge - so angle and hide the hull.   

   Don’t be afraid to ram. - especially other meds and of course Lights. 

 For heavies rams to the side of anything but KV-4, KV-5, ST-I are very effective.  

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


 

 
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DigitalDopamine #24 Posted 06 March 2018 - 03:00 PM

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View Postclin328, on 06 March 2018 - 08:13 AM, said:

why not buff its armor? I feel like that tank never bounce shots

 

I never did, overall, the panther is better than the panther 2

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popisdead #25 Posted 06 March 2018 - 03:07 PM

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View PostDasBucket, on 05 March 2018 - 12:33 PM, said:

The Panther 2 is arguably one of the worst tanks in the game, overall its stats in no good at all. Even on blitzstars it has the worst WR of every single tank. In my opinion, there is a big issue with this tank, and it needs fixing.

 

Most new people go through this.

 

You're just playing it wrong, like most people do.


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_Crusader6_ #26 Posted 06 March 2018 - 04:06 PM

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View PostDasBucket, on 06 March 2018 - 10:00 AM, said:

 

I never did, overall, the panther is better than the panther 2

 

I would disagree -- the issue is errors in the P2 are much more obvious as it faces tougher foes, same issue for any tier 7 -> 8 tank.

    The P2 cannot front pen anything it sees in tier 9 like the P I can in 8, it needs to think -- but it a very rewarding tank to drivers that take advantage of it's abilities.

 

 


 

 
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RangerSBD #27 Posted 07 March 2018 - 12:28 AM

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View Post__Crusader6__, on 06 March 2018 - 04:06 PM, said:

 

I would disagree -- the issue is errors in the P2 are much more obvious as it faces tougher foes, same issue for any tier 7 -> 8 tank.

    The P2 cannot front pen anything it sees in tier 9 like the P I can in 8, it needs to think -- but it a very rewarding tank to drivers that take advantage of it's abilities.

 

 

 

It can. Top gun can pen IS-8.

Grayghost2000 #28 Posted 07 March 2018 - 03:17 AM

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View PostDark_Magician_Girl, on 05 March 2018 - 09:12 PM, said:

Yes please lets buff it.  I actually heard WG might buff P8.8 because it is so unpopular.

 

Yes, it is just that bad.

I second this. Buff the panther II and Panther 8,8.



Konigshusar #29 Posted 27 August 2018 - 01:47 AM

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Honestly, the Panther II is a bit of a litmus test to see if you can really play the line (like the Cent.1 or ST-A1), if you just can't eke out decent stats or play it with some confidence, it WILL NOT get better for you at tier 9 or 10. Use its strengths, good gun handling, a solid upper plate and turret, and a decent ability to sidescrape to your advantage and you will do fine. Honestly, the only real thing for this tank is to get good.

Tackywheat1 #30 Posted 27 August 2018 - 02:19 AM

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View PostKonigshusar, on 26 August 2018 - 07:47 PM, said:

Honestly, the Panther II is a bit of a litmus test to see if you can really play the line (like the Cent.1 or ST-A1), if you just can't eke out decent stats or play it with some confidence, it WILL NOT get better for you at tier 9 or 10. Use its strengths, good gun handling, a solid upper plate and turret, and a decent ability to sidescrape to your advantage and you will do fine. Honestly, the only real thing for this tank is to get good.

 

it has bad turret and front hull armor..... much worse then its tier X counterpart...

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__V_O_P__ #31 Posted 27 August 2018 - 02:25 AM

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Top tier you’re a god. Bottom tier not so much. That was my experience for P1 P2 & E50.

Barny227 #32 Posted 27 August 2018 - 03:21 AM

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View PostDark_Magician_Girl, on 05 March 2018 - 09:12 PM, said:

Yes please lets buff it.  I actually heard WG might buff P8.8 because it is so unpopular.

 

Yes, it is just that bad.

Please, please buff the 8.8 along with the panther II.



RogueGen #33 Posted 27 August 2018 - 06:07 AM

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The biggest issue the Panther 2 and 8.8 suffers from is the sheer size of the things. They are support tanks not front liners. They excel at sniping and second line support. Hull down at a distance the Panther 2 can bounce an occasional shot if you learn to poke and sharply angle your front plate as you pull back.The 8.8 doesn't have as much frontal armor and will not bounce shots if you show the reds your front, but its got 10 degrees of gun depression the Panther 2 doesn't have which can really help it get shots off easily. The last thing I can say about the Panther twins if you don't know how to play a sneaky medium play style these aren't the tanks to learn it in. 

Edited by RogueGen, 27 August 2018 - 06:08 AM.


BAR_001 #34 Posted 27 August 2018 - 11:10 AM

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View Post__Crusader6__, on 06 March 2018 - 02:48 PM, said:

 

Angle...

 

As said before the P2 is not a front line brawler - it’s a great support tank due to the gun.  

  It can seize some areas and pen anything.  

Do not expose the lower front plate - as it and the E50 and anything else German with the front transmission will auto ignite for fun. 

 

The turret has great angles and isnt huge - so angle and hide the hull.   

   Don’t be afraid to ram. - especially other meds and of course Lights. 

 For heavies rams to the side of anything but KV-4, KV-5, ST-I are very effective.  

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Good stuff Cru. ^^ :great: It is definitely not your run of the mill Med and needs to be handled a bit differently. More like a heavium with a profile as opposed to actual armor and a honey of a German gun.  Sometimes I really like it, others not so much. It does well under cover and at distance. Not a brawlers tank though. I need to try the ramming thing with it.
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Wombeer #35 Posted 27 August 2018 - 12:17 PM

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Panther 8,8 is absolutely a joy to work with. One of the best gun handling stats in the game.

Panther 2 seems to sacrifice this just a bit along with mobility for a bit of armor. While it looks like a fair trade on paper (maybe?) I’d MUCH rather give up more armor for even more dpm or mobility. Armor that isn’t reliable is not a useable asset. Panther 2 only really wins out in avoiding HE derp frontally. Edit: actually, I forgot the panther 2 is heavier so more effective at ramming. That is a pretty significant advantage against all the light tier 7/8s zipping around. 

I’d say the Panther 2 could use a little something; maybe more hull armor to make it a true E50 predecessor.

Edited by Wombeer, 27 August 2018 - 12:19 PM.


_kell54_ #36 Posted 27 August 2018 - 12:48 PM

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View Posttedg5, on 06 March 2018 - 12:03 AM, said:

Every time  I have a tank I think is bad, I just watch a video of someone good In it, and then I understand it is just me. :playing:

Like the type 61 and STB-1. 



Fu_Manchu_ #37 Posted 27 August 2018 - 02:51 PM

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I only have a couple games in it, so I'd welcome a buff to make that grind a little easier.

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cupcakefight #38 Posted 27 August 2018 - 06:12 PM

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View PostFu_Manchu_, on 27 August 2018 - 08:51 AM, said:

I only have a couple games in it, so I'd welcome a buff to make that grind a little easier.

 

Yup, because the logic of "I'm grinding it now so let's buff it" contributes to the conversation.

 

View Post_kell54_, on 27 August 2018 - 06:48 AM, said:

Like the type 61 and STB-1. 

 

The 61 is mediocre but the STB-1? You must be a real nub, eh? 10 degrees of depression and a strong turret? Get a grip. It's like a leo that trades some firepower for an actual turret or a T-62a that trades some firepower for actual gun depression.

 

The panther 8.8 seems like it could use the buff a little more... but it seems like according to WG's old theories, the premium version should be a little worse. :teethhappy:


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View Postcupcakefight, on 27 August 2018 - 11:12 AM, said:

 

Yup, because the logic of "I'm grinding it now so let's buff it" contributes to the conversation.

 

 

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