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dontcry11111 #1 Posted 16 April 2018 - 12:54 PM

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Good day, 

i have the option of going one of the two directions posted above, which would you recommend and why... Much appreciated!



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I have both Pattons and the t54, but haven't played either regularly lately.

 

Last time I used them on a regular basis, you couldn't really go wrong with either.

 

Good guns, good armor, good mobility across the board.

 

Generally speaking though, if I'm choosing between tanks and all else being equal, and one of them happens to be russian, I usually go russian. Seems to be less likely to be effected by future nerfs


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View Postdontcry11111, on 16 April 2018 - 07:54 AM, said:

Good day, 

i have the option of going one of the two directions posted above, which would you recommend and why... Much appreciated!

 

Can't go wrong with either direction but choose the one that suits your playstyle the most. You a medium driver who likes to brawl or ridge fight and hull down?

 

Pattons are not good at 1v1 brawling. Slow reload and soft hulls. Russians are not good at hull down due to limited depression.

 

Based on your performance I would NOT recommend the patton line at this time. The Patton line has a higher skill requirement and your performance in the Tier V-VIII's are showing you haven't fully figured out how to properly do ridge fighting at this time. 

 

I would recommend the T-62 line but not until you are able to get your survival rates in the T-34 and T-34-85 up to 40% in your 30 day stats.


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Thank you, appreciate all points made. Gavidoc thanks especially for the detailed look.  One more question, if you don't mind: any recommendations for improving areas of weakness or links to resources you suggest, thank you.

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on YouTube look up Sk8xtrm, Bushka on Blitz, Anon______, Dark Magician Girl, to start.

there are others that will come up as suggestions but these are what most of us olduns cut our teeth on.


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You have the choice of much russian bias, or now russian bias.

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View PostGavidoc01, on 16 April 2018 - 01:37 PM, said:

Pattons are not good at 1v1 brawling. Slow reload and soft hulls.

 

M46 Patton has the best DPM as a tier 9 med and fares OK in 1 v 1 scenarios.

 

M48 Patton's hull armor is not great, but it can be quiet troll. If I am in my BatChat, I don't like engaging it frontally. 



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Thank you everyone, truly appreciate it

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Pattons are awesome.  Haven't played the T54/T62A.

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View PostNaDa_22, on 16 April 2018 - 11:16 AM, said:

 

M46 Patton has the best DPM as a tier 9 med and fares OK in 1 v 1 scenarios.

 

M48 Patton's hull armor is not great, but it can be quiet troll. If I am in my BatChat, I don't like engaging it frontally. 

 

True but compared to a 54, I'd go for the 54 in a brawling situation. 

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View PostGavidoc01, on 16 April 2018 - 01:37 PM, said:

 

Can't go wrong with either direction but choose the one that suits your playstyle the most. You a medium driver who likes to brawl or ridge fight and hull down?

 

Pattons are not good at 1v1 brawling. Slow reload and soft hulls. Russians are not good at hull down due to limited depression.

Not sure what Russians you’re talking about. They hull down like a boss. Ridge fighting is where they struggle. The 54 and 62 are near impenetrable when hull down.



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Thank you everyone for contirbuting, it's very helpful to see several opinions, much appreciated again.

Pastaguy2003 #13 Posted 16 April 2018 - 07:54 PM

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View PostGavidoc01, on 16 April 2018 - 06:37 AM, said:

 

Can't go wrong with either direction but choose the one that suits your playstyle the most. You a medium driver who likes to brawl or ridge fight and hull down?

 

Pattons are not good at 1v1 brawling. Slow reload and soft hulls. Russians are not good at hull down due to limited depression.

 

Based on your performance I would NOT recommend the patton line at this time. The Patton line has a higher skill requirement and your performance in the Tier V-VIII's are showing you haven't fully figured out how to properly do ridge fighting at this time. 

 

I would recommend the T-62 line but not until you are able to get your survival rates in the T-34 and T-34-85 up to 40% in your 30 day stats.

 

I think you mean win rate.  Also, the russian meds are basically the best hull down tanks in the game

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View PostPastaguy2003, on 16 April 2018 - 02:54 PM, said:

 

I think you mean win rate.  Also, the russian meds are basically the best hull down tanks in the game

 

no they're not

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View PostPastaguy2003, on 16 April 2018 - 02:54 PM, said:

 

I think you mean win rate.  Also, the russian meds are basically the best hull down tanks in the game

 

Yes, it's just finding that one spot where they can hull down. 


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The Pattons. I’ve played all 4 of these tanks, and the Russians are nowhere near as op as people make them out to be.

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View Postalexanderhu, on 16 April 2018 - 01:00 PM, said:

 

no they're not

 

in terms of turret armor yes they are, the t54 and 62a anyways.

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View Postspalling_apart, on 16 April 2018 - 01:11 PM, said:

 

Yes, it's just finding that one spot where they can hull down. 

 

There is quite a few if you know your maps.

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Also, the way WG is treating the T62a, soon it will have a 0.5 second reload, hesh, 20 degrees of gun depression, and the ability to fly.

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View PostPastaguy2003, on 16 April 2018 - 03:36 PM, said:

 

in terms of turret armor yes they are, the t54 and 62a anyways.

You have zero evidence to back up your false claims. Their turrets are nothing special and by no means the best.

T54 has 200mm of slightly angled frontal armor while the 62a has 240mm. Yes, the turrets are pretty hard to pen. However there are several other tanks with more effective frontal armor than this. The t34 has 203mm of frontal armor, not counting the huge gun mantlet. The WZ120 has 200mm of sloped turret armor. Every single one of the IS series tanks from tier 8 and up have much stronger turret fronts. The tier 9 VK has 220mm frontal turret armor. The ST1 even has 250mm of SLOPED turret armor. Then at tier 10, the 50m, Maus, 215b, IS7, IS4, Obj263, and 121b all have 240-260mm of frontal turret armor. (the 263 has 250mm frontal armor). 

The T54 and 62a are nothing special in terms of turret armor. Also you said the russian mediums in general; no they're not. The 140 has paper for turret armor. The t44 and 44/100 both have 120mm, the mod1 has 180mm, and the ltwt has 160mm. 

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