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Jaq___ #1 Posted 14 June 2018 - 10:54 AM

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The tank truly is truly incredible. It gets bounces it shouldn't and it basically has 400 alpha if both shots hit, which gives it crazy dpm too. See it in action in an Ace Mastery as it still can dominate as a low tier, which makes it special.  

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Yes its very good, I rarely get bounces and after the last few updates you are lucky if you do 300 damage with both shells. But a lot of Uni's play it, and often. It took me over 700 games to ace it.

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View Post_Jaq, on 14 June 2018 - 02:54 AM, said:

The tank truly is truly incredible. It gets bounces it shouldn't and it basically has 400 alpha if both shots hit, which gives it crazy dpm too. See it in action in an Ace Mastery as it still can dominate as a low tier, which makes it special.  

https://www.youtube....h?v=T68tsin1iFw

 

Hints on dealing with the slow turret traverse?

 

 

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View PostYuno_Gasai__, on 14 June 2018 - 12:47 PM, said:

Not even... Hellsing's not OP

 

Helsing is definitely OP. Nothing about it suggests otherwise.



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View PostBorisBaddenov, on 14 June 2018 - 07:33 AM, said:

 

Hints on dealing with the slow turret traverse?

 

 

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Turn the hull with the turret.

Or, plan before you pull out.  Kinda like an auto loader, you should be hiding with hard cover on reloads, so just know where your target is before you pull out, and already have your turret pointed that way.

Or, wait for the other guy to charge around the corner/over the hill as was shown in the video multiple times.  Then just wait there with your shot gun pointed at just past the corner and blast them as they come around the corner like idiots.

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BorisBaddenov #8 Posted 14 June 2018 - 02:01 PM

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View Postahredstealth, on 14 June 2018 - 05:59 AM, said:

 

Turn the hull with the turret.

Or, plan before you pull out.  Kinda like an auto loader, you should be hiding with hard cover on reloads, so just know where your target is before you pull out, and already have your turret pointed that way.

Or, wait for the other guy to charge around the corner/over the hill as was shown in the video multiple times.  Then just wait there with your shot gun pointed at just past the corner and blast them as they come around the corner like idiots.

 

I do that ^^

 

Was hoping for some super-top-secret-unicum-only-special-gadget.

 

 

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I’ve noticed a strong lack of Spare Parts. Is that intended?

No, it is not. This problem will solve itself with time. Many players have several dozens of vehicles in their Garages, so they don’t have enough Spare Parts for the entire vehicle fleet. But you will gradually collect enough Spare Parts to unlock new slots for purchased tanks in time.


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View PostBorisBaddenov, on 14 June 2018 - 07:33 AM, said:

 

Hints on dealing with the slow turret traverse?

 

 

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Get the equipment that maxes out traverse.

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Holy_Outlaw #11 Posted 14 June 2018 - 02:13 PM

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Great video! As far as acing it, the ace bar has always been fairly high for a tier 7. I drive the Helsing like a med more than anything else. Go to strategic points in the map, set up and hold that spot. As you said it even does well low tier. One of my favorite things to do in it is to HE Ru251's. You can easily pen and get full dmg rolls of 600 hp on them, which is just devastating. Of course other light tanks too, but the T49 is harder to get full high rolls against, especially frontally. I think its the tank's angles. I always say the Helsing is the best tier 7 medium, only half jokingly. :P

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View PostAlpha998, on 14 June 2018 - 10:13 AM, said:

The Helsing is the best tier 7 medium

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View PostVikkoTheTusken, on 14 June 2018 - 08:42 AM, said:

:great:

 

Thanks Vikko, much appreciated! :)

Jaq___ #14 Posted 14 June 2018 - 07:19 PM

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View PostWipWapJaws, on 14 June 2018 - 12:25 PM, said:

Is this 2016?.......

 

View PostYuno_Gasai__, on 14 June 2018 - 12:47 PM, said:

Not even... Hellsing's not OP

 

View PostKiser_Sosei, on 14 June 2018 - 01:29 PM, said:

Yes its very good, I rarely get bounces and after the last few updates you are lucky if you do 300 damage with both shells. But a lot of Uni's play it, and often. It took me over 700 games to ace it.

 

Did they nerf this premium? I never heard that they did. Still seems like a little beast to me. Can someone confirm a nerf or do people feel it has been power creeped? I think its still ridiculously OP to be honest. 

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View Post_Jaq, on 15 June 2018 - 05:19 AM, said:

 

 

 

Did they nerf this premium? I never heard that they did. Still seems like a little beast to me. Can someone confirm a nerf or do people feel it has been power creeped? I think its still ridiculously OP to be honest. 

 

No nerf, maybe a bit power creeped as a lot of T7 heavies got a buff a little while back.  

 

That is part of the problem, WG won’t nerf premium tanks which makes balancing hard and tiers7 and 8 a mess



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View PostWipWapJaws, on 15 June 2018 - 07:12 AM, said:

 

No nerf, maybe a bit power creeped as a lot of T7 heavies got a buff a little while back.  

 

That is part of the problem, WG won’t nerf premium tanks which makes balancing hard and tiers7 and 8 a mess


The last time they nerfed a premium was a Super Pershing and that Type 59 i think... at least for the PC 

 

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View PostDefaultz, on 14 June 2018 - 01:44 PM, said:

 

Helsing is definitely OP. Nothing about it suggests otherwise.

 

^^^^ He gets it :)

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Jaq___ #18 Posted 15 June 2018 - 10:36 PM

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View PostMr_Mayhem71, on 14 June 2018 - 02:06 PM, said:

Literally a shell of what it used to be. 

 

OK, what's this nonsense I'm reading. Someone want to explain this to me?

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Jaq___ #19 Posted 17 June 2018 - 10:09 AM

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View PostAlpha998, on 14 June 2018 - 02:13 PM, said:

Great video! As far as acing it, the ace bar has always been fairly high for a tier 7. I drive the Helsing like a med more than anything else. Go to strategic points in the map, set up and hold that spot. As you said it even does well low tier. One of my favorite things to do in it is to HE Ru251's. You can easily pen and get full dmg rolls of 600 hp on them, which is just devastating. Of course other light tanks too, but the T49 is harder to get full high rolls against, especially frontally. I think its the tank's angles. I always say the Helsing is the best tier 7 medium, only half jokingly. :P

Thanks man! Yep, it plays like a medium with a slow turret. If you play it like a camping td, you’re doing it all wrong. It’s terrible at long distance but a brutal close to mid range fighter. 


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Jaq___ #20 Posted 18 June 2018 - 11:50 AM

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View PostBorisBaddenov, on 14 June 2018 - 01:33 PM, said:

 

Hints on dealing with the slow turret traverse?

 

 

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Yeah the turret traverse is the most annoying thing isn't it. It can get you into trouble when you are circling behind another tank etc. I actually see a lot of people miss those shots because they expected the traverse to be faster and they shot too soon at point blank range. Turn the hull concurrent with the turret as it speeds it up a lot. Also, point the direction you want the gun to be in before you pull out etc. It's like the Jackson in that it takes a while to get use to it, but when you do it isnt that big of a deal. Hope that helps. 

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