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TheMainframe #1 Posted 23 June 2018 - 04:12 PM

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I've decided to list tanks based on whether or not they existed or not. I'm counting the GuP tanks as real, because the tanks themselves were mass produced. The paints are fake as crap, though. Premium tanks are marked with an asterisk (*).

 

If the tank was mass produced, then received a modified variant that was produced in a limited amount, I consider that to be a "finished" tank, and it will be placed as mass produced (such as the French tanks that were modified by the Germans).

 

A prototype is a model of the finished product. Visual as well as functional prototypes count. 

 

NOTE: I only have tiers 1 - 5 atm. I will finish this through tier 10 soon. Criticism is welcome.

 

Entered Mass Production or Limited Production as a finished product

 

Tier 1

Spoiler

 

Tier 2

Spoiler

 

Tier 3

Spoiler

 

Tier 4

Spoiler

 

Tier 5

Spoiler

 

Prototypes Built Only

 

Tier 1

Spoiler

 

Tier 2

Spoiler

 

Tier 3

Spoiler

 

Tier 4

Spoiler

 

Tier 5

Spoiler

 

Blueprints Only or Concept Only, tanks that could have been made theoretically

 

Tier 1

Spoiler

 

Tier 2

Spoiler

 

Tier 3

Spoiler

 

Tier 4

Spoiler

 

Tier 5

Spoiler

 

Fake, completely made up, not in the historical record at all

 

None in tiers 1 - 5!


Edited by TheMainframe, 25 June 2018 - 03:27 PM.

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tankeatingtiger #2 Posted 23 June 2018 - 04:47 PM

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Nuuu the duck did not exist!!! Bye bye, hopes and dreams :arta:

But good work there, very cool! :great:


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TheMainframe #3 Posted 23 June 2018 - 04:52 PM

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View Posttankeatingtiger, on 23 June 2018 - 10:47 AM, said:

Nuuu the duck did not exist!!! Bye bye, hopes and dreams :arta:

 

It probably would have existed, had France not been occupied halfway through its development.


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Zuke76 #4 Posted 23 June 2018 - 05:12 PM

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hopefully the elc existed haha

 

edit: it did yay!


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Blartch #5 Posted 23 June 2018 - 06:07 PM

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I endorse this project.  Some moons ago I went through those that actually served in battle or at least in combat units, but this list didn't do the vital step of noting realized prototypes vs. blueprint-only etc.  Keep up the work!

 

 

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rabbitlover2016 #6 Posted 23 June 2018 - 06:19 PM

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Yeah I think that Predator, VINDICATOR, DRACULA, HELSING, and all of the Valkyrie chronicle tanks were real, but could double check that. Yeah, maybe for some tanks add a category 'made up by high wg employees or literally stolen from other games' category

_UrgleMcPurfle_ #7 Posted 23 June 2018 - 06:58 PM

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View Postrabbitlover2016, on 23 June 2018 - 12:19 PM, said:

Yeah I think that Predator, VINDICATOR, DRACULA, HELSING, and all of the Valkyrie chronicle tanks were real, but could double check that. Yeah, maybe for some tanks add a category 'made up by high wg employees or literally stolen from other games' category

 

Out of the bunch you mentioned, the dracula is the only one based on a real tank (Amx CDC). The rest are purely from other games. 

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Strigonx #8 Posted 23 June 2018 - 07:01 PM

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At least half of the Chinese tree is fake.

German high tiers like the E-50 AND E-50M are WG interpretations, along with the Jagdpanzer E-100 and the VK 7201K, so it can be assumed they're fake

the British AT line from tier 5 to 8 are napkin tanks culminating in the Tortoise which we know is very real, the tier 10 was only a wooden mockup of what if the 4005 Stage II was fitted in a Conqueror hull or something like that


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rabbitlover2016 #9 Posted 23 June 2018 - 07:37 PM

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View Post_UrgleMcPurfle_, on 23 June 2018 - 06:58 PM, said:

 

Out of the bunch you mentioned, the dracula is the only one based on a real tank (Amx CDC). The rest are purely from other games. 

Uhhhhhh yeah I was joking...

 



Pittoors_ #10 Posted 23 June 2018 - 08:57 PM

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View PostStrigonx, on 23 June 2018 - 03:01 PM, said:

German high tiers like the E-50 AND E-50M are WG interpretations, along with the Jagdpanzer E-100 and the VK 7201K, so it can be assumed they're fake

 

Actually, the E50 was a blueprint tank. The E50 M, however, is a WG invention.

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TheMainframe #11 Posted 23 June 2018 - 10:07 PM

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View PostBlartch, on 23 June 2018 - 12:07 PM, said:

I endorse this project.  Some moons ago I went through those that actually served in battle or at least in combat units, but this list didn't do the vital step of noting realized prototypes vs. blueprint-only etc.  Keep up the work!

 

 

In case it helps part of your project: 

http://forum.wotblit...served/#topmost

Oh wow! That's really good! Yours has more information about the tanks, and it appears to be listed chronologically, while mine is separated into game tiers. I'll look through your stuff for sure! :0

 

Once I'm home tonight I'll either do a few more tiers or give in and do the whole thing xD If anyone sees anything they disagree with, feel free to call me out. 


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tedg5 #12 Posted 24 June 2018 - 03:09 AM

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Nice work here, it is a cool read. :great:

TheMainframe #13 Posted 25 June 2018 - 03:30 PM

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Update 1.1

- Spoilers added

- Tier 5 added

- Moved Somua SAu 40 from "Blueprints Only" to "Prototype Built Only"

- Changed the font of headers

- Various bug fixes

 


Edited by TheMainframe, 25 June 2018 - 03:30 PM.

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Strigonx #14 Posted 25 June 2018 - 04:16 PM

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For those interested in the Chinese potential fakes here's an QnA in The Armored Patrol about it

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 "In this game you’re either a predator or you’re prey.

 Prey doesn’t win at the same ratio as the predators because prey doesn’t have the same attitude. Unfortunately their are are not enough predators to keep the prey in check and  the prey is running rampant. Prey doesn’t care about WR, either directly or indirectly. Thats why they do what they want, that’s why the game has been dumbed down and  that’s why MH was brought about. Without a check it will continuously get worse until the predators are extinct" 4sfield


TheMainframe #15 Posted 25 June 2018 - 06:37 PM

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View PostStrigonx, on 25 June 2018 - 10:16 AM, said:

For those interested in the Chinese potential fakes here's an QnA in The Armored Patrol about it

I'll trade a look at this; I had placed the Chinese tier 1 in the produced section because the Chinese did in fact have FTs from France at one point. The NC is a modification of this.


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rabbitlover2016 #16 Posted 25 June 2018 - 10:16 PM

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I hope this thread gets pinned. I'd hate for all of this hardwork to go to watse. Plus it's very interesting.

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View PostStrigonx, on 23 June 2018 - 02:01 PM, said:

At least half of the Chinese tree is fake.

German high tiers like the E-50 AND E-50M are WG interpretations, along with the Jagdpanzer E-100 and the VK 7201K, so it can be assumed they're fake

the British AT line from tier 5 to 8 are napkin tanks culminating in the Tortoise which we know is very real, the tier 10 was only a wooden mockup of what if the 4005 Stage II was fitted in a Conqueror hull or something like that

The E50 is real, as German engineers had tried to standarize the parts, hence the name "StandardPanzer". iirc 40% (or was it 60%?) of the parts were compatible with the heavy variant, the E75. Unfortunately the war ended before a prototype could be produced.

 

As for the Chinese tree, I can't disagree with you. The Chinese has no TDs, but most of the other tanks were real. (Namely the T59 and T62 Light, which both saw combat against the Vietnamese in the 10 year long border disputes. Fun fact, they fought against M60s and M41 Waller Bulldogs that the Viet Cong captured from the southern Vietnam forces which were supplied by the US)


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View Postrabbitlover2016, on 23 June 2018 - 11:19 AM, said:

Yeah I think that Predator, VINDICATOR, DRACULA, HELSING, and all of the Valkyrie chronicle tanks were real, but could double check that. Yeah, maybe for some tanks add a category 'made up by high wg employees or literally stolen from other games' category

You joke, but it's not really stolen if they got a license/agreement. That's like saying Super Smash Bros. stole Sonic or Solid Snake.


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