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Amx m4, biggest failure of the line?

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Poll: Amx m4, biggest failure of the line? (13 members have cast votes)

Which is better in their tier, ARL 44, Or the AMX M4?

  1. ARL 44 (11 votes [84.62%])

    Percentage of vote: 84.62%

  2. AMX M4 (2 votes [15.38%])

    Percentage of vote: 15.38%

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  1. Yes (2 votes [16.67%])

    Percentage of vote: 16.67%

  2. No (10 votes [83.33%])

    Percentage of vote: 83.33%

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Madashell21 #1 Posted 24 June 2018 - 07:29 AM

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     Some people say the ARL 44 is the worst tank of the French heavy line. Their reasoning? Bad armor, is slow, and slow rate of fire. But arguably the Arl compared to the AMX m4, has a better hull armor scheme for its tier, has the same top gun as the Amx, and is about the same speed as the Amx in my opinion. Plus the Arl is a little shorter in length than its tier 7 counterpart, and has a wonderful upper plate on the front of the hull. On the other hand, at tier 7, the Amx's armor is useless, especially against tier 8 tanks. It's gun has the same penetration as the tier 6 Arl, and is a big target, 99% of the time, if not angled skillfully, you will be penned.

     So in my opinion, the Amx m4 is just a step down from its Arl predecessor. As its barely more maneuverable, poorly armored, and gun handling and penetration is average for tier seven. But you decide in my poll, I want to see what people think, how my article was, and which is the better tank.

 


Edited by Madashell21, 24 June 2018 - 07:48 AM.

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Negaclaw #2 Posted 24 June 2018 - 07:55 AM

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anybody that thinks the ARL is bad needs help

 

arl >>>>>>>>>>>>>> m4, thats a no brainer


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Madashell21 #3 Posted 24 June 2018 - 08:10 AM

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No, not everyone, the tank is has actually pretty good gun handling. Plus it has the somewhat trollish frontal armor.

 


Edited by Madashell21, 24 June 2018 - 08:13 AM.

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Chariot_Solace #4 Posted 24 June 2018 - 08:24 AM

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They are both excellent tanks. Apart from having good DPM for it’s tier, the M4 has better aim bloom and a better turret, which is more important than upper plate armor. The ARL’s turret is garbage. And the upper plate isn’t even bad. Coupled with fact that it has 10 degrees of gun depression to enhance it, it’s actually good. And you shouldn’t be expecting to bounce top tier tanks with your  bottom tier heavy off your upper plate without skillful angling anyways. Why would you? This is another common case of forumers having extremely unrealistic expectations about armor. Every tank isn’t an IS-4 people. It would be a shtty game if they were.

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Madashell21 #5 Posted 24 June 2018 - 08:30 AM

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I'm not holding unreasonable standards, I'm just saying the Arl armor in the front was better, the lower plate is very excellent.

Edited by Madashell21, 24 June 2018 - 08:31 AM.

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Dan_Deerso #6 Posted 24 June 2018 - 11:26 AM

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I've never seen or heard of anybody claiming that the ARL is bad, let alone claiming it's the worst of the line.


Zuke76 #7 Posted 24 June 2018 - 12:26 PM

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What?!?1

 

The Arl is the main heavy tank in tournaments due to its superb frontal armor and gun.

 

Arl is better than amx m4 easy


Edited by Zuke76, 24 June 2018 - 12:26 PM.

 

 

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AOT_Jaeger2 #8 Posted 24 June 2018 - 03:25 PM

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Who on earth has ever said the ARL is close to bad. I have some ridiculous stats in the ARL. It’s a beast. The M4 is just disappointing. Very similar to the VK 45.02 A, except it doesn’t even have the somewhat decent turret of the latter. It’s a crap tank through and through.

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Modern_Neanderthal #9 Posted 24 June 2018 - 03:31 PM

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This is the worst coherent post I've ever read on the forums. 

 

+1 if this was meant to be comedy/trolling



vvk2 #10 Posted 24 June 2018 - 04:17 PM

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M4 used to be a better version of VK 45.03. But after the tier 7 heavy buff, all the Germans heavies received a much bigger buff than M4 that made M4 outclassed. and the recent Tiger's nerf (very minor) didn't help, and the VK4503 wasn't even touched. 

wannabeunicum #11 Posted 24 June 2018 - 05:08 PM

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The biggest failure is the 50 100.

Dan_Deerso #12 Posted 24 June 2018 - 05:28 PM

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View Postwannabeunicum, on 24 June 2018 - 01:08 PM, said:

The biggest failure is the 50 100.

 

Now you're just being salty that they nerfed an OP tank.


Madashell21 #13 Posted 24 June 2018 - 07:12 PM

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View PostDan_Deerso, on 24 June 2018 - 05:26 AM, said:

I've never seen or heard of anybody claiming that the ARL is bad, let alone claiming it's the worst of the line.

 

I saw this claim on a unicum guide
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Dan_Deerso #14 Posted 24 June 2018 - 08:55 PM

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View PostMadashell21, on 24 June 2018 - 03:12 PM, said:

I saw this claim on a unicum guide

 

Well then that person is either speaking of the PC or XBox versions which are balanced in a completely different way, or they're a blooming idiot.


Madashell21 #15 Posted 24 June 2018 - 10:13 PM

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View PostDan_Deerso, on 24 June 2018 - 02:55 PM, said:

 

Well then that person is either speaking of the PC or XBox versions which are balanced in a completely different way, or they're a blooming idiot.

 

No it was a blitz unicum guide
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ZebraUp #16 Posted 24 June 2018 - 10:15 PM

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There is a reason the ARL 44 is one of the most used tier 6 tournament tanks... and it ain't because it sucks!

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Madashell21 #17 Posted 24 June 2018 - 10:17 PM

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I have one question to pose, even though I am appreciative of the feedback, tell me why you hated my article, give me solid reasoning and not bad arguments like, "I hate cuz it's dum".


Edited by Madashell21, 24 June 2018 - 10:18 PM.

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Dan_Deerso #18 Posted 25 June 2018 - 01:33 AM

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View PostMadashell21, on 24 June 2018 - 06:17 PM, said:

I have one question to pose, even though I am appreciative of the feedback, tell me why you hated my article, give me solid reasoning and not bad arguments like, "I hate cuz it's dum".

 

Because it's nearly 100% incorrect and you've done exactly no research into the topic, relying on how you "feel" the tank is instead.

 

1. Nobody thinks the ARL is bad. If they do, they're an idiot.

2. The AMX M4 isn't horrible, especially after the recent heavy buffs of tier 7.

3. The font's garbage, just use the default. 

4. Research what a "Heavium" is.

5. 212mm of pen is far from average for tier 7. It's actually best in class.

6. AMX M4's got some of the best mobility and gun handling stats on a tier 7 heavy.

7. 10 degrees of gun depression is something worth mentioning.

8. ARL has amazing armor for the tier, some say the best. 

 

 

Basically, do yer research if you want to write an article.



Madashell21 #19 Posted 25 June 2018 - 03:19 AM

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View PostDan_Deerso, on 24 June 2018 - 08:33 PM, said:

 

Because it's nearly 100% incorrect and you've done exactly no research into the topic, relying on how you "feel" the tank is instead.

 

1. Nobody thinks the ARL is bad. If they do, they're an idiot.

2. The AMX M4 isn't horrible, especially after the recent heavy buffs of tier 7.

3. The font's garbage, just use the default. 

4. Research what a "Heavium" is.

5. 212mm of pen is far from average for tier 7. It's actually best in class.

6. AMX M4's got some of the best mobility and gun handling stats on a tier 7 heavy.

7. 10 degrees of gun depression is something worth mentioning.

8. ARL has amazing armor for the tier, some say the best. 

 

 

Basically, do yer research if you want to write an article.

I'm saying my opinion, I wasn't the one to say the Arl was a bad tank, it a was a unicum guide 

 


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Dan_Deerso #20 Posted 25 June 2018 - 03:32 AM

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View PostMadashell21, on 24 June 2018 - 11:19 PM, said:

I'm saying my opinion, I wasn't the one to say the Arl was a bad tank, it a was a unicum guide 

 

Then the "unicum" you're watching is either out of date or an idiot.





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