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Nerf the t49

Started by Kaos_Dynamo, Jul 05 2018 09:46 PM
T49 nerf op overpowered alpha damage

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Zuke76 #21 Posted 05 July 2018 - 11:05 PM

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If anything it needs a buff.

 

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trogvision #22 Posted 05 July 2018 - 11:15 PM

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If I had 15 cents for every time I saw a T49 get ammo racked, I would be an exceptionally wealthy man.

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4sfield #23 Posted 05 July 2018 - 11:16 PM

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View Posttrogvision, on 05 July 2018 - 06:15 PM, said:

If I had 15 cents for every time time I saw a T49 get ammo racked, I would be an exceptionally wealthy man.

 

   Enough said^^^

 

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gordonchau #24 Posted 05 July 2018 - 11:44 PM

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View Postboppinbobby, on 05 July 2018 - 09:51 PM, said:

 

Of course he is, look at his stats.

 

 

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Chariot_Solace #25 Posted 06 July 2018 - 12:31 AM

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It is one of the most highly annoying tanks at times since they can run up behind you, derp you in the a$$ and run away, sometimes even if you did nothing wrong. BUT, as others mentioned there is a long list of flaws that balance that out. The first nerf was enough. It was broken upon initial release. The module damage was absolutely ridiculous. But it’s fine now.

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Others have offered reasons why this thing is balanced. I'll refute the points OP has given- 

1) the alpha damage is op for the speed of the vehicle. This means less exposure to damage when firing. The amount of damage is just overkill (so to speak).

 

Aim time means you're sitting there for at least 7 seconds if you want to consistently hit. That's enough time to get clipped out by an autoloader, that's enough time to get killed, that's enough to make most people snapshot and / or reduce their accuracy. The alpha is large, but with bad pen this aim time and accuracy issue is just exaggerated. 

 

2) with these characteristics, the gap between an ok player and a really excellent one is huge. This means the tank is inherently too far unbalanced amongst players. The tank can never be balanced with these characteristics.

 

Unicums can play most tanks well. This tank, being so RNG-dependant, narrows the gap. I don't see what you mean. 


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EolSunder1 #27 Posted 06 July 2018 - 12:57 AM

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Its a good tank, but not a OP tank. Anything can damage it. Is like a kv2, long reload, after it shoots, kill it. Really, if you can't handle a T49, how the heck did you handle kv2s when you were grinding. It is almost worthless vs 1 tier higher heavy armor tanks, almost has to hit in the back to damage anything, isn't going to do nothing to the front, and some nothing to the sides. Equal tier battles, its nice, but any team that isn't blowing them up when they appear is just that 40% trash team that you get every game. 

 

Sorry, if you haven't learned how to handle derp tanks yet, maybe just play another game, blitz might be to difficult for you.


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View PostChariot_Solace, on 06 July 2018 - 12:31 AM, said:

It is one of the most highly annoying tanks at times since they can run up behind you, derp you in the a$$ and run away, sometimes even if you did nothing wrong. BUT, as others mentioned there is a long list of flaws that balance that out. The first nerf was enough. It was broken upon initial release. The module damage was absolutely ridiculous. But it’s fine now.

If you got booty popped by a t-49, you did something wrong.


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Chariot_Solace #29 Posted 06 July 2018 - 03:31 AM

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View PostAbsolute_Sniper, on 05 July 2018 - 09:13 PM, said:

If you got booty popped by a t-49, you did something wrong.

 

 

Hah. Not true at all. For tons of reasons I don’t feel like listing right now. Keep learning dude.


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View PostChariot_Solace, on 05 July 2018 - 07:31 PM, said:

 

 

Hah. Not true at all. For tons of reasons I don’t feel like listing right now. Keep learning dude.

 

This is true. The power of a team's T49 relies on the knowledge (and bravado, in many cases) of the person driving it. If you're booty-popped by one, as you put it, then there's a good chance you wouldn't have seen that T49 until it was too late anyway.

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View Postjkwon126, on 05 July 2018 - 11:28 PM, said:

I miss the original.

 

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View PostChariot_Solace, on 06 July 2018 - 03:31 AM, said:

 

 

Hah. Not true at all. For tons of reasons I don’t feel like listing right now. Keep learning dude.

 

Either you over extend or get caught unawares. I always pay attention when I see a t-49 on red, same as a 183 or a kv-2. Maps are small enough you can usually see what way they will come. Plan accordingly and minimize the risk. If you get popped, 99% of the time you could’ve done something to prevent it. Keep learning dude? I’m good on that department. That’s why I look for solutions and not excuses....


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Kaos_Dynamo #35 Posted 06 July 2018 - 12:11 PM

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SpartacusDiablo #36 Posted 06 July 2018 - 12:12 PM

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If anything the tank needs a buff. Here is how I would do it.
The 152mm on the T49 needs some love. It needs it's pre-nerf pen and reload back. Module dmg should stay at its current level.

Also its ammunition needs to be looked at. HEAT is next to useless. The tank needs a standard HE round and a premium HE round in addition to its mediocre HEAT round.
 

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Kaos_Dynamo #37 Posted 06 July 2018 - 12:23 PM

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View Postboppinbobby, on 05 July 2018 - 02:54 PM, said:

OP if you can't lead a shot and hit it as it goes past...

 

not if the turret speed and traverse aren’t fast enough

 

and in that case, neither can u


Edited by Kaos_Dynamo, 06 July 2018 - 12:24 PM.

__Crusader6__ #38 Posted 06 July 2018 - 12:25 PM

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It really needs a HEAT Missile...

 

Seriously, the gun shot HEDP (kinda like HESH/HEAT in one) for bunker busting and light vehicles.  

For Anti-Tank engagements it had the Shillelagh ATGM, a thru barrel wire guided HEAT warhead missile. 

 

 


 
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View Post__Crusader6__, on 06 July 2018 - 07:25 AM, said:

It really needs a HEAT Missile...

 

Seriously, the gun shot HEDP (kinda like HESH/HEAT in one) for bunker busting and light vehicles.  

For Anti-Tank engagements it had the Shillelagh ATGM, a thru barrel wire guided HEAT warhead missile. 

 

 

I wasn't going to bring up the subject of missiles, but since you did....

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View PostElectriFryd, on 05 July 2018 - 08:56 PM, said:

Kaos you’re trash and you’re the reason that wargaming keeps nerding skill tanks and buffing moron wagons. Load he and get gud newb

 

thanks for your eloquent... nope.

 

thanks for your thoughtful... nope.

 

thanks for your insightful... hmm, nope.

 

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