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[WoTB_TheSoulKeeper_NA]

GOOD Day,

 

  Here’s a review video of the T110E5, Remember some of them are just opinions. also, I know I’m not the best player.

 

https://youtu.be/Y_apRGldDWY

 

[Dark_Magician_Girl]

I still find the E5 to be very mediocre in tier 10.  Would not recommend the tank in the current meta and in its current state.

[WoTB_TheSoulKeeper_NA]

Dark_Magician_Girl, on 07 July 2018 - 09:19 PM, said:

I still find the E5 to be very mediocre in tier 10.  Would not recommend the tank in the current meta and in its current state.

 

Tnx for the opinion. i love e5 xd

[Boomer_Von_Doom_II]

Dark_Magician_Girl, on 07 July 2018 - 09:19 PM, said:

I still find the E5 to be very mediocre in tier 10.  Would not recommend the tank in the current meta and in its current state.

 

The hell is wrong with you...I pound out 3k damage games almost every battle.  Its borderline OP.

[WoTB_TheSoulKeeper_NA]

__Boomer2__, on 08 July 2018 - 09:57 AM, said:

 

The hell is wrong with you...I pound out 3k damage games almost every battle.  Its borderline OP.

 

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[reluctanttheist]

DMG opines that the M103 is better in its tier than the T110E5.  I disagree based on my own experience with both tanks (granted that I avoid tier 10 because it's not particularly satisfying gameplay), and the stats from Blitzstars, which shows the E5 performing better at tier 10 than the M103 does at tier 9.  That said, you rarely see the E5 in competitive play in Blitz; it's too slow for the armor it has.  If WG gave it a traverse buff to match PC, maybe we'd see more of it in tourneys.  If WG ran tier 9 tourneys I'd expect to see very few M103's used there since it's a much weaker tank armor-wise, and with similar manoeuvrability to the E5. 

 

Regardless of all that, the T110E5 is in the top third of tier 10 tanks by winrate (10th out of 29), and the M103 is third from the last in tier 9 by winrate! (25th of 27)

[Dark_Magician_Girl]

__Boomer2__, on 08 July 2018 - 09:57 AM, said:

 

The hell is wrong with you...I pound out 3k damage games almost every battle.  Its borderline OP.

 

Looking at your numbers to check that statement, you do roughly 2k-2.2k for each of your 30-60-90-career stats for the E5.  It is not borderline OP.  The armor profile odes not work at tier 10.  183's and and 704's shooting at you is very different than an inaccurate IS spam horde or poor penetration guns like the Mod. 1, tanks which the M103 frequently faces when it is top tier.

[Boomer_Von_Doom_II]

Dark_Magician_Girl, on 08 July 2018 - 06:19 PM, said:

 

Looking at your numbers to check that statement, you do roughly 2k-2.2k for each of your 30-60-90-career stats for the E5.  It is not borderline OP.  The armor profile odes not work at tier 10.  183's and and 704's shooting at you is very different than an inaccurate IS spam horde or poor penetration guns like the Mod. 1, tanks which the M103 frequently faces when it is top tier.

 

Those numbers are inaccurate right now.  About 300 of my 466 battles in the E5 were with the pre-buffed turret, which I did atrocious in (I was under 2k average when I bought it back, IIRC).

 

And it must be your tank; I can sit hull down against TDs and bounce 80% of the shots without moving.  Throw in a jig and wiggle and that number goes to an easy 95%.  Its not IS4 grade, but its by no means bad.

[reluctanttheist]

I don't think DMG has the E5 yet.   Have you played it recently, DMG?   You're rocking the M103, and all indicators are that the E5 is better at 10 than the M103 is at tier 9.

[Ookla_the_Mok]

My E5 is brutal playing solo pub matches. If WG moves to only 3 heavies per team in the MM it will only be more frustrating. The tank always feels slightly deficient in all aspects: alpha, accuracy, armor, mobility, etc. The armor profile can be "solved" if you get in bad spots and your gun threatens exactly zero reds. So, you adapt by avoiding head-to-head encounters and working support, but you cannot do enough to shine in this role either. The tank is not awful, but damned if it doesn't play like a tier 9.5 most games.

 

If the meta was built on mediums as it was in the past, then I could see this version of the E5 flourishing. In a meta of armor/alpha/stalemate, the E5 flounders.

[Dark_Magician_Girl]

__Boomer2__, on 09 July 2018 - 08:53 AM, said:

 

Those numbers are inaccurate right now.  About 300 of my 466 battles in the E5 were with the pre-buffed turret, which I did atrocious in (I was under 2k average when I bought it back, IIRC).

 

And it must be your tank; I can sit hull down against TDs and bounce 80% of the shots without moving.  Throw in a jig and wiggle and that number goes to an easy 95%.  Its not IS4 grade, but its by no means bad.

 

your 30 day stats still show around 2.2k average, the E5's turret cupola was shaved a long time before that.

[Dark_Magician_Girl]

reluctanttheist, on 09 July 2018 - 04:22 PM, said:

I don't think DMG has the E5 yet.   Have you played it recently, DMG?   You're rocking the M103, and all indicators are that the E5 is better at 10 than the M103 is at tier 9.

 

I've played the E5, and fair worse in it than the M103.  Similar to the T32, the turret armor is weaker than you would expect.

[vvk2]

While I am not a unicum by any measures, but IMHO, the E5 line goes downhill at higher tiers. T32>M103>E5.

The turrets are too soft, the top forward speed is not high enough and the reverse speed is a joke. 

And the soft sides and paper back are not helping either.. 

[Boomer_Von_Doom_II]

Dark_Magician_Girl, on 09 July 2018 - 06:33 PM, said:

 

I've played the E5, and fair worse in it than the M103.  Similar to the T32, the turret armor is weaker than you would expect.

Ok, that's it, I'm not taking advice from you anymore.  

[Dark_Magician_Girl]

__Boomer2__, on 10 July 2018 - 07:28 AM, said:

Ok, that's it, I'm not taking advice from you anymore.  

 

You have trouble penning the t32's turret?  I mean there is a pretty easy weak point like the E5's.  Since both have horrid reverse speed it is hard to make people miss.

[reluctanttheist]

vvk2, on 09 July 2018 - 08:01 PM, said:

While I am not a unicum by any measures, but IMHO, the E5 line goes downhill at higher tiers. T32>M103>E5.

The turrets are too soft, the top forward speed is not high enough and the reverse speed is a joke. 

And the soft sides and paper back are not helping either.. 

 

The T32 is impenetrable from the hull up, but the guns are lacking.  The terrain resistance of the T32 is worse than the M103 and E5, so it always feels a tad sluggish.  The E5's gun is one of my faves, and someday I'll have the FV215b to compare it to.  The T32 really feels irrelevant now that the T34 has been buffed as much as it has.  

 

Just going by the BlitzStars data though, the M103 is faring the worse of the three, and the E5 the best.  The T32 is in the top of the bottom third of tier 8 tanks by winrate.

[MudkipAtWar]

Dark_Magician_Girl, on 10 July 2018 - 05:20 PM, said:

 

You have trouble penning the t32's turret?  I mean there is a pretty easy weak point like the E5's.  Since both have horrid reverse speed it is hard to make people miss.

 

I wouldn't say easy to hit, but it's definitely there and viable if they stay still. It's rather difficult to hit from if they are moving range unless you have a German laser

 

[vvk2]

reluctanttheist, on 10 July 2018 - 10:53 PM, said:

 

The T32 is impenetrable from the hull up, but the guns are lacking.  The terrain resistance of the T32 is worse than the M103 and E5, so it always feels a tad sluggish.  The E5's gun is one of my faves, and someday I'll have the FV215b to compare it to.  The T32 really feels irrelevant now that the T34 has been buffed as much as it has.  

 

Just going by the BlitzStars data though, the M103 is faring the worse of the three, and the E5 the best.  The T32 is in the top of the bottom third of tier 8 tanks by winrate.

 

I found T32 turret is best of the 3 (and generally very reliable), M103 the worst (cheeks being too soft even frontally), and E5 is in the middle (after the surgery) - the hatch is still pennable. 

T32 gun sucks of course, but the rest of the tank is very usable - taking into account it has to fight the IS spam which would explain its low WR... 

M103/E5 gun is great, but it seems to be the only real asset (aside from the gun depression they all share). Soft turrets makes the hull down a bit challenging and the tank's other drawnbacks limit their performance when used otherwise (e.g. brawling) compared to other heavies.

That's why I rated them that way. T32 being the first - a good tank, just happen to be at a tier full of OP Russian tanks. M103 is step down but still can hold against its counterparts (although ST-I is a way better hull down tank), and E5 is the last - it just feels too soft compare to any other Tier X heavy.

 

[Boomer_Von_Doom_II]

Dark_Magician_Girl, on 10 July 2018 - 04:20 PM, said:

 

You have trouble penning the t32's turret?  I mean there is a pretty easy weak point like the E5's.  Since both have horrid reverse speed it is hard to make people miss.

 

Unless I'm running a high pen gun or the cupola is very exposed, yes.  If its a good player, you're not going to pen it anywhere on the turret ever.

[Dark_Magician_Girl]

__Boomer2__, on 11 July 2018 - 09:32 AM, said:

 

Unless I'm running a high pen gun or the cupola is very exposed, yes.  If its a good player, you're not going to pen it anywhere on the turret ever.

 

I don't know, I've penned reliably from my IS-3.  That is my perspective though.  The tank is OK.  tier for tier better than the E5 imo.