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Jonny_applesauce #1 Posted 15 July 2018 - 08:58 PM

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Just got one in a crate totally randomly (also got A-32 a while back, played it, hated it, sold it)

 

What the heck is it??

 

From its stats it has good armor, bad speed, and a wee little tiny gun that really is not going to work against tier 5 tanks. I liked the A32 alright in tier 4 games, even though it has terrible dpm because at least it hit hard. The reason I sold it is it had to fire a ton of pramo in tier 5 games so it didn't really make money which is the point of premium tanks, even low tier ones. Aaand the Valentine has even less pen than the A32, and it has no speed so you can't even flank the impervious-from-the-front T1 heavy to get its soft sides.

 

Should I sell it straight away, or is it worth a few credits to equip and have the odd sealclubbing  relaxing game in it. I'm not opposed to having a few games at tier 4 even though I am trying to get my average tier above 7 eventually, but I have no reason to torture myself on a premium tank that has to fire so much pramo you don't make any money. 51 pen really? KV1 has 70mm of REAR armor. Even the pramo will struggle against that if angled.

 

Also it is a tier 4 tank that relies on armor so it probably won't be pretty when it meets a DW2, PZIVD, M3 Lee, or anything of that sort with a 75 mm gun that has 100+ pen. So even when top tier vs tier III and IV it will struggle? I really don't know about this tank...…… 

 

The only possible redeeming feature is that one of my clanmates says it never sees tier 5, it is always top tier and that is the only reason he plays it. Is that true?


WoT blitz is better than WoT PC imho because no arty and +/- 1 mm.

 

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Way_over_my_head #2 Posted 15 July 2018 - 09:08 PM

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Yes, it has preferential matchmaking, be sure not to platoon with anyone not also in a Val, or a PzB2 which also has pmm. It is pretty rough if you see a tier5 tank sporting that gun!
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Jonny_applesauce #3 Posted 15 July 2018 - 09:12 PM

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View PostWay_over_my_head, on 15 July 2018 - 09:08 PM, said:

Yes, it has preferential matchmaking, be sure not to platoon with anyone not also in a Val, or a PzB2 which also has pmm. It is pretty rough if you see a tier5 tank sporting that gun!

 

Wow it actually does? I knew there were tanks like that in WoT pc but never knew they had them here.

WoT blitz is better than WoT PC imho because no arty and +/- 1 mm.

 

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Shadow__Lugia #4 Posted 15 July 2018 - 11:44 PM

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Don’t knock it until you give it a shot. As already stated, it’s got premium MM so it’ll never see tier 5. With its 51mm of pen, you’ll have to use premium on things like the D.W.2 and B1s/B2s and Matilda’s, but besides that, it can do some work at tier 4

Zuke76 #5 Posted 15 July 2018 - 11:47 PM

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the normal valentine is better preferential mm or not

Jonny_applesauce #6 Posted 15 July 2018 - 11:48 PM

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View PostShadow__Lugia, on 15 July 2018 - 11:44 PM, said:

Don’t knock it until you give it a shot. As already stated, it’s got premium MM so it’ll never see tier 5. With its 51mm of pen, you’ll have to use premium on things like the D.W.2 and B1s/B2s and Matilda’s, but besides that, it can do some work at tier 4

 

Well I didn't know it had pref mm, the basic point of this thread was to get somebody to confirm it had pref mm or didn't

 

Or just tell me it could do well in tier 5 but how was that ever gonna happen

 

I already have visions of me platooning with a PzB2 and not losing


WoT blitz is better than WoT PC imho because no arty and +/- 1 mm.

 

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Jonny_applesauce #7 Posted 15 July 2018 - 11:49 PM

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View PostZuke76, on 15 July 2018 - 11:47 PM, said:

the normal valentine is better preferential mm or not

 

yeah I picked it up, played 10 games, liked it, only won 1 game because wow I got some bad teams, realized I didn't really want the Sherman firefly, and sold it

 

I should rehab it as 10% winrate is not doing it justice

 

It and the covenanter

 

hmm


WoT blitz is better than WoT PC imho because no arty and +/- 1 mm.

 

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Zuke76 #8 Posted 16 July 2018 - 12:29 AM

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View PostJonny_applesauce, on 15 July 2018 - 11:49 PM, said:

 

yeah I picked it up, played 10 games, liked it, only won 1 game because wow I got some bad teams, realized I didn't really want the Sherman firefly, and sold it

 

I should rehab it as 10% winrate is not doing it justice

 

It and the covenanter

 

hmm

 

Lol... ok

Ookla_the_Mok #9 Posted 16 July 2018 - 12:35 AM

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Changes in the game have not been kind to the Val, but she is worth keeping around as we dont know what changes are ahead for lower tiers. At worst, play it for multipliers and light tank skills. My advice would be to approach playing it like a Church-style tank with a pew pew gun. You have to read the opponent tanks carefully in each game, not the great little tank she was, but not the garbage some think.

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Shadow__Lugia #10 Posted 16 July 2018 - 12:55 AM

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View PostZuke76, on 15 July 2018 - 05:47 PM, said:

the normal valentine is better preferential mm or not

 

well of course the normal valentine is better. Best pen in tier does that for ya

Zuke76 #11 Posted 16 July 2018 - 12:43 PM

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View PostShadow__Lugia, on 16 July 2018 - 12:55 AM, said:

 

well of course the normal valentine is better. Best pen in tier does that for ya

 

yep penned a jpanther 2 in a training room not red at all in lower plate

Tackywheat1 #12 Posted 23 August 2018 - 05:26 AM

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xTurboChickenx #13 Posted 03 October 2018 - 04:00 PM

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I drive it like a heavy use the armor profile to your advantage and angle your hull properly... I get so many bounces. The armor profile is the bees knees. 

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TO_Dominator #14 Posted 03 October 2018 - 05:31 PM

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The huge and weak engine compartment is annoying and prevents full angling

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