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Why my Kv1 sidescraping is not working all the time?


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Boomer625 #1 Posted 29 August 2018 - 07:15 PM

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I know how to sidescrape heavy tanks like the Kv1, but sometimes I find that tds or other heavy tanks can pen through my tracks and side armor, even when I am perfectly hiding all my weak spots and have not pulled out to shoot. Is this like overmatching?

Jonny_applesauce #2 Posted 29 August 2018 - 07:31 PM

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you may be overangling (putting your side armor too flat) or they may be sniping your turret cheeks. Keep in mind the Pz Sfl IV can mount a gun with 194mm of standard pen and 237 on the prammo so there is certainly plenty of penetration out there

 

Note that there is also a "partial overmatch" mechanic in WoT PC but it only happens when the gun caliber is 2x the armor thickness, in addition to the total overmatch when the gun caliber is 3x the armor thickness. The 3x caliber overmatch is a total overmatch that will always pen, the partial overmatch will only overmatch up to a certain angle. (I don't know what that angle is or even if it exists in Blitz) Either way only a KV2 AP round would trigger it against 75 mm of side armor.


Edited by Jonny_applesauce, 29 August 2018 - 07:31 PM.

WoT blitz is better than WoT PC imho because no arty and +/- 1 mm.

 

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Boomer625 #3 Posted 29 August 2018 - 07:40 PM

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How much armor do you get if you are facing the enemy, with all but you side armor exposed?

Boomer625 #4 Posted 29 August 2018 - 07:41 PM

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I think that’s probably a 20 degree angle of the shot

cheesehead247365 #5 Posted 29 August 2018 - 07:43 PM

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Side scraping doesn't eliminate penetration, it reduces the chances of it working reliably

Jonny_applesauce #6 Posted 29 August 2018 - 07:58 PM

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http://blitzhangar.com

 

You can use this website to check armor values - I use it every time I get a new tank to figure out how to angle

 

keep in mind that the recommended strategies at the bottom of the page are completely stupid and rarely actually apply to the tank :P

 

 


WoT blitz is better than WoT PC imho because no arty and +/- 1 mm.

 

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Boomer625 #7 Posted 29 August 2018 - 10:06 PM

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It says 760 mm of armor at 84 degree angle, which is how I usually angle(I approximated the angle in a training battle)

Bronyman50 #8 Posted 30 August 2018 - 02:29 AM

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They’re probably going through the flat bits of your turretand the turret ring

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samueld1130 #9 Posted 13 November 2018 - 05:53 PM

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Try to angle your turret too

someguyfromPitt #10 Posted 20 November 2018 - 05:25 AM

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Play an AT-2 if yinz want armor at tier 5. 

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