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hul_steel #1 Posted 16 September 2018 - 11:43 PM

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Latest update has had disastrous results. My battles are virtually all now with players with roughly similar win rates and lots of battles like myself. I have done nothing but lose since then. I was at 55.26 and after slightly over 1 day of play am at 55.22. Never happened before. Checked about 15-20 battles worth of player stats and pretty much all are 50-60% wr players. HERE IS THE ISSUE - if indeed Matchmaker is now categorizing by general win rates unless you are above the top half of the average wr used you will lose constantly. Would have to be a 57+% wr for instance to get anywhere at all if you are the 55% player. 

May finally be time to quit this messed up game permanently. I have chatted about 10 players with generally similar wr and so far the couple who have replied say this is their experience as well. 



MRobertsRCS #2 Posted 16 September 2018 - 11:57 PM

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It’s almost like..

 

it’s a conspiracy.   Must be.   There is no other reason why the unicums keep winning and I keep losing.  


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Dan_Deerso #3 Posted 17 September 2018 - 12:07 AM

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I can assure you, I am not being matched with peers.

 

Spoiler

 



tankeatingtiger #4 Posted 17 September 2018 - 12:16 AM

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View PostDan_Deerso, on 16 September 2018 - 07:07 PM, said:

I can assure you, I am not being matched with peers.

Lol. 

Your peers must have lost a couple billion brain cells.


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oicram1 #5 Posted 17 September 2018 - 01:38 AM

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View PostDan_Deerso, on 16 September 2018 - 07:07 PM, said:

I can assure you, I am not being matched with peers.

 

Spoiler

 

 

I have taken so many screen shots like this recently, but am too depressed to actually go through with posting mine. 

 

YES!! I have had soooo many games like this in the last two weeks. 3-4 zeros everyday...demoralizing.


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tedg5 #6 Posted 17 September 2018 - 07:06 AM

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Every update, event, holiday weekend, etc is like this. Has been for the last 4 years. It brings out the nubs for a few days till they decide they suck/ still suck and go back to candy crush or whatever they normally are up to, maybe professional window licking. :deer:

FussyRude #7 Posted 17 September 2018 - 07:29 AM

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View Posttedg5, on 17 September 2018 - 07:06 AM, said:

Every update, event, holiday weekend, etc is like this. Has been for the last 4 years. It brings out the nubs for a few days till they decide they suck/ still suck and go back to candy crush or whatever they normally are up to, maybe professional window licking. :deer:

 

or porn

PanzertroopenVT #8 Posted 17 September 2018 - 11:36 AM

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Tide pods?

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hul_steel #9 Posted 19 September 2018 - 11:51 PM

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I finally sent a ticket to Support to see if my situation is an anomaly - corrupt download???!!

Has always been bad enuf with 40% clowns and AFK with out this matchmaking issue.

 

 



Spookie42 #10 Posted 19 September 2018 - 11:52 PM

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Gotta agree...something changed with the new update. I've been on very few winning teams since it occurred. Watching the battles I see tanks getting hit broadside in solid gray areas and get no damage, I see a tank get hit on the very top of the turret and their tracks get disabled. Today I fought two battles in a row with my Glacial where I hit a lower tiered tank twice inflicting heavy damage then hit them 3 more times from the rear and nothing...I've watched my percnetage go from 52.10 to 49.82 in a week. Been playing this game for two years, almost everyday, never seen this stuff happening. 



Tiker #11 Posted 22 September 2018 - 12:52 AM

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I was just in a game with 2 -  A 20 and 5 -  BT 7 art. Great job on matchmaker. Also being 70% of the time at the bottom of the list is really fun.!!!! Or, I guess, it just my luck for the last 7 days.  

Bachus131 #12 Posted 28 September 2018 - 08:51 AM

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If you are playing at low tiers you will be facing other seal clubbers from now on.  New players face bots and will not be there for you to feast upon so it is time to move on to higher tiers. 

Also sniping skill causes random criticals which is why you can get hit in the turret and get a track crit.


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Bachus131 #13 Posted 28 September 2018 - 08:55 AM

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View PostDan_Deerso, on 16 September 2018 - 06:07 PM, said:

I can assure you, I am not being matched with peers.

 

Spoiler

 

 

Yeah I recognize one of those names as a career camper WG really needs to get rid of these parasites.
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oldman1500 #14 Posted 03 October 2018 - 10:25 PM

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View Posthul_steel, on 16 September 2018 - 11:43 PM, said:

Latest update has had disastrous results. My battles are virtually all now with players with roughly similar win rates and lots of battles like myself. I have done nothing but lose since then. I was at 55.26 and after slightly over 1 day of play am at 55.22. Never happened before. Checked about 15-20 battles worth of player stats and pretty much all are 50-60% wr players. HERE IS THE ISSUE - if indeed Matchmaker is now categorizing by general win rates unless you are above the top half of the average wr used you will lose constantly. Would have to be a 57+% wr for instance to get anywhere at all if you are the 55% player. 

May finally be time to quit this messed up game permanently. I have chatted about 10 players with generally similar wr and so far the couple who have replied say this is their experience as well. 

 

View Postoicram1, on 17 September 2018 - 01:38 AM, said:

 

I have taken so many screen shots like this recently, but am too depressed to actually go through with posting mine. 

 

YES!! I have had soooo many games like this in the last two weeks. 3-4 zeros everyday...demoralizing.

 

View Posthul_steel, on 19 September 2018 - 11:51 PM, said:

I finally sent a ticket to Support to see if my situation is an anomaly - corrupt download???!!

Has always been bad enuf with 40% clowns and AFK with out this matchmaking issue.

 

 

 

View PostSpookie42, on 19 September 2018 - 11:52 PM, said:

Gotta agree...something changed with the new update. I've been on very few winning teams since it occurred. Watching the battles I see tanks getting hit broadside in solid gray areas and get no damage, I see a tank get hit on the very top of the turret and their tracks get disabled. Today I fought two battles in a row with my Glacial where I hit a lower tiered tank twice inflicting heavy damage then hit them 3 more times from the rear and nothing...I've watched my percnetage go from 52.10 to 49.82 in a week. Been playing this game for two years, almost everyday, never seen this stuff happening. 

 

View PostTiker, on 22 September 2018 - 12:52 AM, said:

I was just in a game with 2 -  A 20 and 5 -  BT 7 art. Great job on matchmaker. Also being 70% of the time at the bottom of the list is really fun.!!!! Or, I guess, it just my luck for the last 7 days.  

I am asking for some help.  Just about every battle I have played lately is very skewed towards the red team.  Examples: Tier 5 and up matches.

Game A Blue average battles/team 15819, Ave WR 49.20% Red team Ave battles 23398 Ave WR 51.76.

Game B blue Ave battles 13772 Ave WR 48.48  Red team Ave battles 22817 Ave WR 53.32

Lower tiers not much better.  A lot of seal clubbing in the lower tiers.

My first shot at any enemy is a phantom shot.  No damage.  Second shot will do damage.

1 out of every 3 kills doesn’t register as my kill.

Completed  the mission Where I had to get two wins in a row with a Japanese tank.  The first two times I completed the mission it did not give me credit for completing the mission.  The third time finally gave me credit for completing the mission.  I took pictures of the problem and can send them if needed.

Game freezes up on me in the middle of a battle constantly.  Ping will go from 25 to 400, 900 for a few minutes then will drop back to normal 25-30.  Will do this several times during a match.  When I check my speed and ping rate it shows over 20 MB and a ping of 1 or 2.

My stats have been dropping like a rock. Career WR is 52.27, last 90 days 53.12, last 60 days 50.32. last 30 days 43.85.  I am usually killed towards end of game if I am killed.  Usually 1-3 kills.  Lately if I manage to make it until the end of game I am lucky to have any kills or I have a couple but am the only one left with 2-4 enemies left.

I have worked with Microsoft support and they have assured me the lag problem and freezing up are not on my end.  They have checked my computer out very closely.

There have always been phantom shots and missed kills ever since I started with this game but, not like this.  The problems have increased dramatically since the last update.  I am not saying the update is the problem but something has definitely changed.

In my opinion Match maker is broken to have so many lopsided battles.

Since I have started showing the numbers in my clan chats many of my clan members are seeing the same things although not as severe.

Don’t know what support can do about these problems but, I am going to quit playing for awhile to see if things change.   I am spending good hard cash to play this game and I am not going to keep buying premium time or all the other little things that I use in the game for what I see to be one problem after another.

I like this game a lot and I try not to complain but, I am at the end of my patience.

Thanks for the opportunity to voice my concerns.

 

Oldman1500



hul_steel #15 Posted 03 October 2018 - 11:04 PM

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I have continued my wr plunge and have now fallen from 55.26 to 55.12. I have asked even more players with 50+% win rates if they have had same problem since update and vast majority have emphatically replied "Yes!"

I can imagine that large numbers of sieve brains played right after update and indeed a few days ago I leveled out to 55.16 but now it is the same old cr ap again. I like to play all tiers and maybe the latest low tier map restrictions have contributed to this as well. My replies from Support have done nothing to bolster my confidence that this issue will get resolution.

My deputy quit a while back over similar issues and maybe it is the only avenue left for me. Cant see going thru all this aggravation for a game. 

 



shyw #16 Posted 03 October 2018 - 11:54 PM

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Main object with this or any other game is to WIN.....2nd is to have FUN.....!!!!

 

Neither has been happening to some of us lately and you can clearly see the effects of the latest MM set-up when players with 20, 30 and 40 thousands battles somehow “forgot” how to play this game?

 

Select any player with a high Winrate, you will see a disastrous drop-off in their 30 day Winrate average against their Lifetime average!!!

 

How can this be, well I have been tracking MM match-ups for my last 106 battles and these are the MM numbers I have found

 

My Team average winrates = 47.8563452%

Opposing Team Winrate averages = 52.563685%

 

Mind you this is just my last 106 battles and it took some time to collect this data after every battle.

 

If MM is just trying to adjust all to be average, they are doing just that.

 

Others who have been tracking have been noticing the same.

 

Again, the main object of this and any other game is to WIN and have FUN....and this is why so many long time players are scaling back their playing time, dropping off, playing other games, etc

 

After 40k battles, you just don’t forget how to play. You have been playing a tank that lifetime carries a 62% Winrate, all of a sudden drops to 57%

 

Just saying....if it is happening to you, start tracking and compare the Team make-ups

 

It will be an eye opener!!!!


Edited by shyw, 04 October 2018 - 12:02 AM.


_West #17 Posted 07 October 2018 - 05:13 AM

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Tier 6 match. Please justify this Wargaming!  I want to hear the puke that anyone can state that could justify this matchup is even close to being a fair or close to fair match!

Okay, it's absolutely rediculous what Wargaming is doing. 7-0 game. We had 3 blanks. Where in any situation is this match conceivably fair!

My team: There team:
28K battles 50.26%. 2229 battles. 59.40%
854 battles 44.38%. Toon 16K battles 49.58%
Toon 2550 battles 38.19% 3283 battles 47.24
1024 battles 43.93% Toon 13450 battles 48.41%
Toon 2063 battles 41.01% 4961 battles48.80%
974 battles 36.45%. 6412 battles 49.75%
2208 battles 42.62%. 2727 battles 45.19


There were 22 people in the queue at the time. absolutely nobody can carry a team this poorly matched. Wargaming is absolutely ruining this game for people!



2ndCavalryTanker #18 Posted 08 October 2018 - 02:34 AM

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I thought I was just on a bad luck streak. Guess not. Though I don’t track all the stats of the players, I still notced that I have been losing over and over and over. It doesn’t matter what tank or map either. I just wish matchmaking was 100% random. At least that way nobody could complain.

 

53.38% and crashing btw.


Edited by 2ndCavalryTanker, 08 October 2018 - 02:35 AM.

     

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