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_kell54_ #21 Posted 09 October 2018 - 11:08 PM

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Yeah. I stopped playing tankenstein. I can usually scrape tier 8s (except isu and borsig) but was getting destroyed all of the sudden. I’ll definitely check it out. And let you know.

___ez_e___ #22 Posted 09 October 2018 - 11:15 PM

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You know I was wondering why I couldn’t seem to bounce shots as well as it should.    

 

I have definitely been sidescraping less because I kept getting penned.  


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reluctanttheist #23 Posted 09 October 2018 - 11:38 PM

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If we all ticket this problem - if it still exists - that will get their attention.

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Zuke76 #24 Posted 09 October 2018 - 11:51 PM

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View PostEclipsePlaysX, on 09 October 2018 - 10:35 PM, said:

Hm  explains a few shots ive taken in is-5. 

 

is5 is not a good sidescraper unless sidescraping backwards

 

 

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Posit1ve_ #25 Posted 10 October 2018 - 03:30 AM

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Just checked in a TR. Ricochets definitely still exist.

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reluctanttheist #26 Posted 10 October 2018 - 05:27 AM

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But do they exist at 20 degrees of impact angle?  That’s what we need to confirm.

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Posit1ve_ #27 Posted 10 October 2018 - 05:47 AM

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View Postreluctanttheist, on 10 October 2018 - 12:27 AM, said:

But do they exist at 20 degrees of impact angle?  That’s what we need to confirm.

 

They do. Me and a friend tried it. Got a K-91 to ricochet off a Bat that wasn't even using the full gun depression.

 


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SK1DADDLE #28 Posted 10 October 2018 - 05:52 AM

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You guys must be really bored...

 

 

 


Amm0rax #29 Posted 10 October 2018 - 06:01 AM

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So how did you guys find out about this 20 degree angle stuff exactly? Were you guys so bored that you just hopped in a tr and did something random to discover it?

 

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Kinesthetic_ #30 Posted 10 October 2018 - 06:02 AM

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What tank did you test it on?

PNCR is OP

 

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Schwa1be #31 Posted 10 October 2018 - 08:31 AM

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Tanks like the wz113 will suffer if this is the case. Though I must say I haven’t been having issues with scraping and a few days ago I was spamming the batchat and was able to pull of the iconic front plate baits at a seemingly normal rate. Maybe I just don’t play enough heavy tanks to notice

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View PostAmm0rax, on 10 October 2018 - 06:01 AM, said:

So how did you guys find out about this 20 degree angle stuff exactly? Were you guys so bored that you just hopped in a tr and did something random to discover it?

 

I drove a E50m in game. Sidescrapped. Got penned 3 times by an IS-7 out of 5 shots. I didn’t like it. I watched the replay, brought each shot to armor Inspector. The angle was perfect ricochet zone. I went to a training room. Maybe 50 shots. I got pen ridiculously. 

 

How can a 122mm gun from is-7 hitting a 80mm plate from an E50m sides with 72+ angle penetrate ?

its against the game’s own physics.

 

Opened a ticket, and  WG use random answers, contradicting each other’s.

now v5.3 is dead, and I will retest everything when I can lay my hands on v5.4


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_warL0rd_ #33 Posted 10 October 2018 - 12:22 PM

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Whenever I see IS 5/3/8/7 sidescraping I just wait till they back out enough to show that stupid pikenose and nail them. Maybe they think they got hit in the side skirt bit it was lower plate? 

__Crusader6__ #34 Posted 10 October 2018 - 12:36 PM

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Apparently 5.4 has ricocheted with Apple. 
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View Post__Crusader6__, on 10 October 2018 - 12:36 PM, said:

Apparently 5.4 has ricocheted with Apple. 

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View Postbigpoppadaddy, on 10 October 2018 - 09:46 AM, said:

Reaching out to Blitz Mods for help is painful. I’ve sent many tickets pointing out broken rules, proof and all they just ignore it and claim it works fine. My favorite one were tanks pointing their gun thru the trains box cars and shooting you for damage. Video proof submitted and all I got back was “Ticket Closed” and no reply!

 

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InkaPanzer #38 Posted 10 October 2018 - 03:11 PM

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So it's confírmed : hulldown > sidescrapping :)

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View PostInkaPanzer, on 10 October 2018 - 09:11 AM, said:

So it's confírmed : hulldown > sidescrapping :)

So it’s an accidental backhanded buff to tanks like the T32 and FCM50T


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RommelTanker #40 Posted 10 October 2018 - 04:33 PM

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RA, remember

 

Shell normalization exists, and shells WILL normalize completely based on their ratings.

 

5 degrees for all AP class shells, 3 degrees for all APCR class shells, 0 degrees for all HE and HEAT class shells.

 

The best test to see if ricochet mechanics are still functioning as intended (I can't discover myself; I uninstalled the game and am now trying out IronSight instead) is to take a tank with NO spaced side armor but an extremely flat side. The best tank you can find for that is probably the side armor of the T28 Prototype, since it WILL resist shells that could otherwise penetrate the poorly armored sides, it's a large target, and it's not spaced armor. If an AP shell penetrates at an angle that is roughly 20 degrees, and AP shell should in theory normalization the angle to 25, resulting in a penetration, but a shot at 15 degrees angle still cannot penetrate, because normalization makes it 20 degrees; ricochet angle.

 

Btw, if you still feel ricochet mechanics are broken, have a friend use a Maus, and use a small caliber auto cannon and spam APCR at an extreme angle of the side hull of the Maus. If that doesn't result in a mass of ricochets then the mechanics are definitely broken.


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