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InkaPanzer #41 Posted 11 October 2018 - 09:40 PM

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View PostTO_Dominator, on 11 October 2018 - 04:35 PM, said:

 

If you used your brain (if you have one), you would be able to tell from a very abnormal wr curve such as mine that I did not learn ym skills in low tiers. I learned them in tier ten. 

 

I want to know how you will improve if you have not all your crew skills developed ... because you only play two types of tanks, good luck with that, by the way the only one that is showing no brain in this thread is you.

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TO_Dominator #42 Posted 11 October 2018 - 10:13 PM

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View PostInkaPanzer, on 11 October 2018 - 09:40 PM, said:

 

I want to know how you will improve if you have not all your crew skills developed ... because you only play two types of tanks, good luck with that, by the way the only one that is showing no brain in this thread is you.

 

How will i improve? Look at my constantly improving stats. you haven't proved anything on this thread inkapanzer, not sure how that results in my lack of a brain according to you.  
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_Weeping_Angel_ #43 Posted 11 October 2018 - 10:32 PM

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This whole game is a balancing act for each tank. You improve one stat then you need to take a little from somewhere else. Make this one a little faster therefore it needs to lose something somewhere else.

 

 

The whole reason we have equipment is to make you choose between shoring up some weaknesses in the tank or enhancing the good points. You find the pen lacking so improve it at the cost of dpm. I don't see a need so I can chose the faster reload. 



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View PostInkaPanzer, on 11 October 2018 - 09:40 PM, said:

 

I want to know how you will improve if you have not all your crew skills developed ... because you only play two types of tanks, good luck with that, by the way the only one that is showing no brain in this thread is you.

 

Free xp the levels... When they came out with level 7 skills, had enough free xp to level the important skills to level 5 and higher. 



TO_Dominator #45 Posted 11 October 2018 - 10:42 PM

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View Post_Weeping_Angel_, on 11 October 2018 - 10:32 PM, said:

This whole game is a balancing act for each tank. You improve one stat then you need to take a little from somewhere else. Make this one a little faster therefore it needs to lose something somewhere else.

 

 

The whole reason we have equipment is to make you choose between shoring up some weaknesses in the tank or enhancing the good points. You find the pen lacking so improve it at the cost of dpm. I don't see a need so I can chose the faster reload. 

 

The gun already sucks. Improving the gold pen is a good thing. 
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TO_Dominator #46 Posted 11 October 2018 - 11:58 PM

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View PostBorisBaddenov, on 11 October 2018 - 09:16 PM, said:

 

And it does not have to struggle...

 

Aim differently -- flank more -- use CS.

 

There are three choices for ya -- you get to pick one :)    (or all 3)

 

 

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Gavidoc01 #47 Posted 12 October 2018 - 03:58 AM

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While I’m not phenomenal in the is7, I don’t suck either. The pen it has is fine due to the other strengths it has like:

 

  1. faster than some mediums
  2. trollish side armor
  3. A great turret with few weak spots

 

comparing the is7 to the is4 you see how they are balanced. The 7 has a slower reload but greater ap pen to compensate while the turret not being as tough, has fewer weak points due to the shape. Plus it’s faster. 


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___ez_e___ #48 Posted 12 October 2018 - 04:04 AM

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IS7 doesn’t need a gold buff. 

 

It’s fine the way it is.  

 

How often are are you using gold rounds and what enemy tanks?

 

I honestly don’t use that many gold rounds in this particular tank.   I’m talking full games using just ap.  

 

 

 

 


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View PostGavidoc01, on 11 October 2018 - 09:58 PM, said:

While I’m not phenomenal in the is7, I don’t suck either. The pen it has is fine due to the other strengths it has like:

 

  1. faster than some mediums
  2. trollish side armor
  3. A great turret with few weak spots

 

comparing the is7 to the is4 you see how they are balanced. The 7 has a slower reload but greater ap pen to compensate while the turret not being as tough, has fewer weak points due to the shape. Plus it’s faster. 

 

I'm going to have to disagree on #2. The side armor used to be almost like secondary frontal armor, but after...what, 2? 3? nerfs, I don't have trouble penning it with Leo 1 APCR even when angled and/or at extreme distance.

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View Post___ez_e___, on 12 October 2018 - 04:04 AM, said:

IS7 doesn’t need a gold buff. 

 

It’s fine the way it is.  

 

How often are are you using gold rounds and what enemy tanks?

 

I honestly don’t use that many gold rounds in this particular tank.   I’m talking full games using just ap.  

 

 

 

 

 

Because I only play tier ten, I can't afford to fire much gold. When I need gold, it is againet hull down e100 turret, angled Maus, is7 turret, is4 brawling, hulldown e5, e3, etc.
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TO_Dominator #51 Posted 12 October 2018 - 12:19 PM

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View PostGavidoc01, on 12 October 2018 - 03:58 AM, said:

While I’m not phenomenal in the is7, I don’t suck either. The pen it has is fine due to the other strengths it has like:

 

  1. faster than some mediums
  2. trollish side armor
  3. A great turret with few weak spots

 

comparing the is7 to the is4 you see how they are balanced. The 7 has a slower reload but greater ap pen to compensate while the turret not being as tough, has fewer weak points due to the shape. Plus it’s faster. 

 

disagree with the pen part. 2 mm makes not difference, while the is7 loses aimtime, dispersion and gold penetration, 303 compared to 340. Is7 is fast, but only in a straight line. Is4 has the ability to angle and side sidescrape with a tiny and hard to hit LFP.
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TO_Dominator #52 Posted 12 October 2018 - 12:19 PM

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View Post_UrgleMcPurfle_, on 12 October 2018 - 05:03 AM, said:

 

I'm going to have to disagree on #2. The side armor used to be almost like secondary frontal armor, but after...what, 2? 3? nerfs, I don't have trouble penning it with Leo 1 APCR even when angled and/or at extreme distance.

Ya the side armor is very unreliable, as the track wheel area is only 100 mm thick.


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___ez_e___ #53 Posted 12 October 2018 - 12:32 PM

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View PostTO_Dominator, on 12 October 2018 - 07:16 AM, said:

 

Because I only play tier ten, I can't afford to fire much gold. When I need gold, it is againet hull down e100 turret, angled Maus, is7 turret, is4 brawling, hulldown e5, e3, etc.

 

I’ve been playing mostly tier 10 and I would say I don’t use gold that frequently.     In the last 25 tier 10 battles, I might have used gold for 3-5 battles and even then I may be over exaggerating the usage of gold.    

 

My suggestion is to watch game play video and pay attention to ammo selection and where they aim.   

 

I think your weak spot selection still needs refinement to know how and where to aim with ap.  

 

Some of the tanks you mentioned trying to penn while hull down...gold rounds is not going to increase the pen, because in some cases those are just low probability pen shots regardless of ammo selection.  

For E5 and E3, probably better off using HE to annoy them when hulldown at least you do damage.   You could shoot ap and gold all day both will bounce all day.  

 

Even now, I’m still learning and refining what ammo I use and where I aim.   For example, I realized I never shot at drive wheels enough and choose other spots for whatever reason. 

 

I would say in most situations for most tanks you do not need gold rounds.    

 

 


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TO_Dominator #54 Posted 12 October 2018 - 01:29 PM

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View Post___ez_e___, on 12 October 2018 - 12:32 PM, said:

 

I’ve been playing mostly tier 10 and I would say I don’t use gold that frequently.     In the last 25 tier 10 battles, I might have used gold for 3-5 battles and even then I may be over exaggerating the usage of gold.    

 

My suggestion is to watch game play video and pay attention to ammo selection and where they aim.   

 

I think your weak spot selection still needs refinement to know how and where to aim with ap.  

 

Some of the tanks you mentioned trying to penn while hull down...gold rounds is not going to increase the pen, because in some cases those are just low probability pen shots regardless of ammo selection.  

For E5 and E3, probably better off using HE to annoy them when hulldown at least you do damage.   You could shoot ap and gold all day both will bounce all day.  

 

Even now, I’m still learning and refining what ammo I use and where I aim.   For example, I realized I never shot at drive wheels enough and choose other spots for whatever reason. 

 

I would say in most situations for most tanks you do not need gold rounds.    

 

 

Yeah I used to not fire at drive wheels either, although I always do now. I rarely fire gold too, maybe about 1 round every 3 battles. I find that when I do need gold however, the is7 just doesn't do enough pen.


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Gavidoc01 #55 Posted 12 October 2018 - 11:01 PM

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View Post_UrgleMcPurfle_, on 12 October 2018 - 12:03 AM, said:

 

I'm going to have to disagree on #2. The side armor used to be almost like secondary frontal armor, but after...what, 2? 3? nerfs, I don't have trouble penning it with Leo 1 APCR even when angled and/or at extreme distance.

 

why I called it trollish. When you need it to pen it bounces and when you don’t it pens. 

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303 isn't bad. But it could be a bit higher

TO_Dominator #57 Posted 12 October 2018 - 11:34 PM

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View PostUSSWISCONSIN90, on 12 October 2018 - 11:31 PM, said:

303 isn't bad. But it could be a bit higher

 

i suggested 310-315.
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It is fine the way it is.   

 

If the IS-7 had 320 pen, it would be crazy OP.   

 

Right now it’s gun is it’s major balancing feature.  

 

I’ve gone back and forth with CS, but settled on rammer outside of tournaments.  

  E100 turret ring is pennable with AP either way - and if you can’t hit it go APCR and aim briefly.   

Plus you are faster than it.   

 

Biggest aspect to remember if you are A tank on your team - simply locking down an area and hitting exposed areas when possible will often do better than rushing out to get a pen.  

    Patience, you have 7 min, make the shots count and don’t take damage foolishly. 

 

 

 


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View PostTO_Dominator, on 12 October 2018 - 05:34 PM, said:

 

i suggested 310-315.

314mm works for me. But really isn't a problem. Tbh though i come from console. So the IS-7 is a little different (but not really) then on Blitz.






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