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Wombeer #1 Posted 12 October 2018 - 12:19 PM

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They’re spoiling us. Two in one day? :D

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trogvision #2 Posted 12 October 2018 - 01:55 PM

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slayer_____ #3 Posted 12 October 2018 - 01:55 PM

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someguyfromPitt #5 Posted 12 October 2018 - 02:28 PM

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Anyone drive the AMX 13 57?

 

 I have yet to see an AMX 13 57 in game but I’ve seen a Lorraine several times. 

 

 


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Wombeer #6 Posted 12 October 2018 - 02:45 PM

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The Lorraine is solid and very comfortable to drive. It’s competitive.

The 13 57 on the other hand...hoooo boy is it a different story. Very fun in theory, but its gun has some serious dispersion on the move and pen issues. It may be able to fire once a second, but good luck dealing with all the after shot bloom. Realistically, I’m landing about 350 damage in a typical clip (including bounces, misses, weird RNG, and frequently not having enough time or safety to sit for 5 seconds to get the full 6 out). Still pretty effective, but definitely very new play style that takes some getting used to.

Edited by Wombeer, 12 October 2018 - 02:45 PM.

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__Crusader6__ #7 Posted 12 October 2018 - 03:11 PM

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Lorraine is a great tank. 

   Reload is it’s massive weakness - so one needs to be careful when one pushes. 

C6 highly recommended 10/10 

 

13/57 it’s tier 7, but feels like tier 3 with the 6 shot cannon that lives to troll. 

   Fun tank and if unspotted can put out some serious damage - but it has depression and elevation issues reminiscent of the BC line that can limit positions. 

 C6 medium recommended 6.5/10. 

 

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DarianTanker #8 Posted 12 October 2018 - 03:24 PM

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View Post__Crusader6__, on 12 October 2018 - 09:11 AM, said:

Lorraine is a great tank. 

   Reload is it’s massive weakness - so one needs to be careful when one pushes. 

C6 highly recommended 10/10 

 

13/57 it’s tier 7, but feels like tier 3 with the 6 shot cannon that lives to troll. 

   Fun tank and if unspotted can put out some serious damage - but it has depression and elevation issues reminiscent of the BC line that can limit positions. 

 C6 medium recommended 6.5/10. 

 

Note on grading scale 

C6 gives FCM Pak40 a 0 and the T95E2 a 2 

 

The 13/57 has 7 degrees of depression and 13 degrees of elevation which is much better than the 6 and 6 that the 13/75 has (wow I hadn’t remembered how painful that was, I must’ve repressed my memories of that grind)



__Crusader6__ #9 Posted 12 October 2018 - 03:30 PM

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View PostDarianTanker, on 12 October 2018 - 10:24 AM, said:

 

The 13/57 has 7 degrees of depression and 13 degrees of elevation which is much better than the 6 and 6 that the 13/75 has (wow I hadn’t remembered how painful that was, I must’ve repressed my memories of that grind)

 

Doesn’t feel like 7-13 at all fwiw. 
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SoulCollector5150 #10 Posted 12 October 2018 - 03:31 PM

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Hey Cursader, just to help me  understand your grading scale...... What grade do you give the FCM 50t?  If Loriane is a 10 and 13/57 is a 6.5. 

Thanks.



DarianTanker #11 Posted 12 October 2018 - 03:42 PM

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I’m interested to see what the credit coefficients are on these new French tanks.  On these two new ones and the M4A1 Rev I seem to be earning a lot better than most same tier premiums.  Might partially be because on the autoloaders I’m not spamming adrenaline all the time and ammo is cheap on the 57. But the Rev earns well too! Interesting 

__Crusader6__ #12 Posted 12 October 2018 - 05:38 PM

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View PostSoulCollector5150, on 12 October 2018 - 10:31 AM, said:

Hey Cursader, just to help me  understand your grading scale...... What grade do you give the FCM 50t?  If Loriane is a 10 and 13/57 is a 6.5. 

Thanks.

 

FCM was a 3 pre buff, now it’s a 5.  

 

 

 


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_ArmoredGlassCannon #13 Posted 12 October 2018 - 07:13 PM

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Oh rip me. I knew I should not have spent my money on Cyka Pershing and just save my money for the Lorraine instead. :'<

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wrecker1968 #14 Posted 12 October 2018 - 08:27 PM

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not worth it. unless MM and RNG is fixed.  too bad they almost look fun.....almost.

_Weeping_Angel_ #15 Posted 12 October 2018 - 08:47 PM

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That fourth shot is screwing with people right now. Shoot 3 and slightly pull back and people assume that you are on a reload and move from cover. Oops! Nope, that was a kill shot.  You just died.

 

The reload is long but you get that 4th shot. Sometimes hard to pull off all four without taking at least one in return. Good damage at 900 per clip if you can pull off all 4 shots. I am liking it right now but just now really facing tier IX so we shall see how it does as bottom tier against the t54 and other well armored tier IXs. 

 

 


Edited by _Weeping_Angel_, 12 October 2018 - 08:48 PM.


Wombeer #16 Posted 12 October 2018 - 08:59 PM

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Got my ace. I think I’ve gotten the hang of the Lorraine. It’s the sort of tank that should not be driven while frustrated or on tilt. Doubly so for the 13 57.

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Tackywheat1 #17 Posted 12 October 2018 - 09:09 PM

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13 57's are so easy to bully

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__Crusader6__ #18 Posted 12 October 2018 - 09:32 PM

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View PostWombeer, on 12 October 2018 - 03:59 PM, said:

Got my ace. I think I’ve gotten the hang of the Lorraine. It’s the sort of tank that should not be driven while frustrated or on tilt. Doubly so for the 13 57.

 

Definitely.   

   It takes a lot of finesse to play well. 

 You can go from hero to zero in a second. 

 

13 57 is a death by a thousand cuts sort of tank.  6 rds clip is great and reload is good that you can perma track folks and bail briefly for a reload. 

   


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minitel_NA #19 Posted 12 October 2018 - 09:57 PM

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13 57 is huge fun but I think it’s mostly because people don’t know what is coming at them.

 

once they know it it will be difficult. Lots of people will run the tanks over the next few days and the playerbase will know about it.  I have already been chased down by a ru and he managed to ram me for 520 damage. (He also lost 500 btw but that was not his main point I guess)

 

Then they will forget and it will be a much more lasting fun. Especially I think of aiming the amoracks, engine and gas tanks. 6 hits will blow a lot of them. The issue is 57mm doesn’t go far inside. I need to check carefully which tanks modules are within reach.

 

KVseries on fire every time that’s for sure.


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Wombeer #20 Posted 12 October 2018 - 10:35 PM

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View Postminitel_NA, on 12 October 2018 - 09:57 PM, said:

13 57 is huge fun but I think it’s mostly because people don’t know what is coming at them.

 

once they know it it will be difficult. Lots of people will run the tanks over the next few days and the playerbase will know about it.  I have already been chased down by a ru and he managed to ram me for 520 damage. (He also lost 500 btw but that was not his main point I guess)

 

Then they will forget and it will be a much more lasting fun. Especially I think of aiming the amoracks, engine and gas tanks. 6 hits will blow a lot of them. The issue is 57mm doesn’t go far inside. I need to check carefully which tanks modules are within reach.

 

KVseries on fire every time that’s for sure.

 

That less than 24 hour period is a hoot. I destroyed a T49 who had no idea what the Lorraine was; he bounced HEAT off the front and I rammed and finished him in one clip. The only defense? WALLET WARRIOR :trollface: I've already been absolutely wrecked by more skilled T49 drivers in both Frenchies however, so clearly the 55%+ crowd catches on quickly. All part of the frustrating fun. 


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