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  1. You are right, Sherman V is better! (13 votes [39.39%] - View)

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THE_Viajero #1 Posted 12 October 2018 - 08:39 PM

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 So when the new British line was introduce 1 year ago (the firefly line), Rush that line to get the Firefly, but because I did not have enough Free XP, I have to play the Sherman V, and because I did not care about that tank, my WR ended up at 45%, I ignored the tank some time, but I decided to re-buy it to get the WR up to 50%, I was ready to soffer because of how bad the tank is treated in the forums (if you see how Sherman V you will only found post about how  "trash" it is), but I ended up surprise, because I manage to get my WR up very easy, and especially because I ended up liking it more that the American one. 

 

So I decided to use tank compare to see how it compares to the M4, and it turn out that the Sherman V was better that the M4 in some characteristics 

 

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I mean, look at that DPM and ROF, that traverse, the dispersion, the aim time can be better on the Sherman V if I use EGLD, but considering that they are almost the same and Super charger, gives the Sherman V a more faster shell that the M4, i think Super charge is the best option (also, if the M4 uses super charge, it can top the shell velocity of the Sherman V, but the aim time goes up to 2.01 seconds, making the aim time of the Sherman V the best one if you don't use equipment and provisions).


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Edited by THE_Viajero, 12 October 2018 - 08:53 PM.

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AOT_Jaeger2 #2 Posted 12 October 2018 - 08:43 PM

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They’re each better at two different things. The Sherman V has a more reliable gun and is better at snapshots and DPM. The regular M4 has a derp gun and a way stronger turret. Both are really good.

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Bachus131 #3 Posted 12 October 2018 - 08:43 PM

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Can't  change your mind because you are correct  Sir :)

 


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Dan_Deerso #4 Posted 12 October 2018 - 08:46 PM

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I like turrets that actually bounce things.

Warfaming #5 Posted 12 October 2018 - 08:55 PM

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Well, pretty irrelevant now that the Sherman V is being removed and turning into a Collectors tank, hey who wants free gold?


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Warfaming #6 Posted 12 October 2018 - 08:56 PM

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RIP 1 vote to 4

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fangs58 #7 Posted 12 October 2018 - 09:00 PM

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The better comparison to the Sherman V would be the M4A2E4, But that aside the Sherman V does fine against same or low tier tanks. The 75mm/M3 Gun struggles against tier 6. If you run the 6pd gun you gain pen but lose alpha. The Crusader is a better option in that instance. The 76mm M1A1 has  better AP pen and far better APCR pen. It can hold it's own as a support medium when bottom tier. 

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THE_Viajero #8 Posted 12 October 2018 - 09:02 PM

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View PostBachus131, on 12 October 2018 - 08:43 PM, said:

Can't  change your mind because you are correct  Sir :)

 

 

voting in the poll, will be a nice way to show your opinion (there is problem if you forgot to vote, it happens to me all the time)

 

View PostWarfaming, on 12 October 2018 - 08:56 PM, said:

RIP 1 vote to 4

 

 make that 2 to 4 (and I pretty sure Bachus113 forgot to vote so is technically 3 to 4) 

 

 


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THE_Viajero #9 Posted 12 October 2018 - 09:20 PM

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View Postfangs58, on 12 October 2018 - 09:00 PM, said:

The better comparison to the Sherman V would be the M4A2E4, But that aside the Sherman V does fine against same or low tier tanks. The 75mm/M3 Gun struggles against tier 6. If you run the 6pd gun you gain pen but lose alpha. The Crusader is a better option in that instance. The 76mm M1A1 has  better AP pen and far better APCR pen. It can hold it's own as a support medium when bottom tier. 

 

But the M4A2E4 is about armor, and the 75 mm gun of that tank, is a little bit worse that the one in the Sherman V, and if you want to use a 6-pdr in a medium tank, just use the Ram II, and in top of that, this turret and gun were the most common in Shermans during WW2, making it a little bit more iconic that the American M4 (also, I hate all the American camos, but I love some of the British camos, as well as how American tanks look whit out any camo on, that brow has the same tone of a dog $hit, the British standar color in the other hand is more nice, not as good as the dark grey of the Germans, but better that the American) 

Edited by THE_Viajero, 12 October 2018 - 09:24 PM.

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fangs58 #10 Posted 12 October 2018 - 10:00 PM

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Most of the stats are the same with the gun. You do lose 2 degrees of gun depression and the dispersion is .389 not .38. But you do gain speed, and a slightly better front plate. It sounds like your preference is the Sherman V. Then you should drive it and have fun. I have all of the Shermans, as well as the Ram II and I like them all. But the one I go back to the most it is the American M4. Firefly and Fury are the next in line. For me the Sherman V was a pass through tank. IMHO it really struggles when bottom tiered. Not a bad tank just not a keeper for me. 

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Wombeer #11 Posted 12 October 2018 - 10:49 PM

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Sherman V with the 57mm currently is a beast. It is being removed with the low tier changes however, and the M4 Sherman with 75mm compared to Sherman V with 75mm is like a teenager in a fight with an old man, respectively. RIP 

chessplayer64 #12 Posted 12 October 2018 - 11:51 PM

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Sherman V is a strong tank, better than the American one, but you got the wrong gun mounted in your tank compare. With the 160 alpha gun, Sherman V is just a M4 with weeker armor. mount the 90 alpha gun however, and the sherman V becomes an unique tank that is a dpm monster, can snap shot perfectly, while equipped with decent speed.

vvk2 #13 Posted 13 October 2018 - 12:34 AM

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Sherman V with 75 mm is inferior to M4 despite the paper stats. What makes M4 arguable the best tier 5 med is the reliable 76 mm and the strong turret with a large mantlet, combined with a good agility and excellent gun depression.

While Sherman V shares with M4 the mobility and dun depression, it lost the two key features of M4: the 75mm with its low pen is simple not good enough to deal with tier 5 heaives and many tier 6 tanks. Sherman V turret has a smaller mantlet and doesn't bounce anywhere close what M4 does. 

As others suggested, the pew-pew gun with its excellent pen and RoF is what can make Sherman V not necessarily better but at least different enough from M4. 


Edited by vvk2, 13 October 2018 - 01:42 AM.


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6lb’er is a better option IMHO. 

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i like the 76mm m1a1... way better than the 6 pdr.

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I prefer the m4 vs the V as I like ridge fighting which the V suffers in due to the turret. V with the pew pew is a good tank. 

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Why would I want to change your mind. I want you in the Sherman V

                                                         

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