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invisibleflyingspur #21 Posted 23 October 2018 - 03:35 AM

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View Postespionage546, on 22 October 2018 - 02:46 PM, said:

Lol same I don’t care at all about the event tanks, I ground over 100k exp on my stock type 61 and now I have the top modules and crew without having killed my winrate in a stock tank. Thnx WG. That said I’m gonna get tankenstein for free at the pace I’m going.:trollface:

glad that the tanks are unobtainable for bad players. Makes it so that the matchmaking doesn’t get swarmed by ugly event tanks again GG war gaming.

Too late I've already seen 40 percenter nubs buy it outright and driving it 



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gordonchau #23 Posted 23 October 2018 - 04:38 AM

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lol using tier 6 tanks for calculation is your biggest mistake

http://www.blitzstar.../1004189253.png

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Gojira5475 #24 Posted 23 October 2018 - 05:13 AM

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Dunno I'm just playing regular battles and I've almost got the gravedigger,the one odd thing I noticed is I went for Tankenstein first and the amounts needed were ridiculous so after one stage I switched~now Frankentank's needed cookies and fuel are WAY lower. 

TO_Dominator #25 Posted 23 October 2018 - 12:51 PM

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I'm sorry that you think you deserve so much free stuff.

"Blitz" can't exist within a world of TDs.

EthereaI #26 Posted 23 October 2018 - 02:02 PM

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View PostBachus131, on 17 October 2018 - 10:14 PM, said:

Let me start by saying Mad games is the best event wargaming has ever done in my experience.

Just one gripe though using special abilities that have to be activated in slot 4 is very difficult on PC since there is no keybind and using control -click while aiming or COD'ing is nearly impossible plus it freezes your controls until you right  click on game window which fires your gun ending chameleon and revealing your position. 

 

 

http://forum.wotblit...-mad-games-bug/

 

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View PostTO_Dominator, on 23 October 2018 - 07:51 AM, said:

I'm sorry that you think you deserve so much free stuff.

 

What he said. 
 
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Bachus131 #28 Posted 23 October 2018 - 02:22 PM

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View PostTEXAS_for_the_win, on 22 October 2018 - 08:17 PM, said:

 

Wrong about the tankenstein! i have played under 2 hours and 20 min a day with a 50 % wr and i am on track for getting it. you are giving out false info

 

Show me the math.   

If you do the math you may find you are not as close as you think since the final stage is larger than all the others combined.  The Tankenstein is possible but the Gravedigger is not.


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Bachus131 #29 Posted 23 October 2018 - 02:36 PM

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View PostDerpomagix, on 22 October 2018 - 04:18 PM, said:

Wargaming is a business. They require money to run.  A few Wargaming devs sat down for several days to code this event, and make all the powers, create two new tanks. This costs money.

And you expect events to be completely free? Hey - they gave you a free tank, FFS.

Everyone knows that you won't get this tank for free unless you have no business or family life whatsoever. That's Wargaming's way of saying - "you can buy the tank full price, or you can earn Biogas and cookies to reduce the price of the tank."

In the end, 99% of the people who get these tanks will pay for them. I'll be paying, after I've earned as many cookies and fartgas as I can,

Stop crying. Oh, and here's a saltproof tissue to wipe those tears... you are most welcome.

 

I am not denying that wargaming has a right to make money I  buy my premium monthly to support the game and if they can dupe some people into paying $75 for a pixel tank more power to them. LOL

Also I don't want the event to be so easy everyone gets it I earned my CDC and am proud of that fact because it was not 'EZ' and very few people can make that claim.  That is what I was hoping for in the Gravedigger a tough but possible challenge.

But don't tell us lies saying that we can earn a free tank in an event when it is impossible to obtain that is FALSE ADVERTISING. 


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Bachus131 #30 Posted 23 October 2018 - 02:38 PM

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View PostEthereaI, on 23 October 2018 - 08:02 AM, said:

 

 

http://forum.wotblit...-mad-games-bug/

 

Carry harder kid

 

 

Yeah that was me and they fixed it the next day ;)

 


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Bachus131 #31 Posted 23 October 2018 - 02:40 PM

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View Postgordonchau, on 22 October 2018 - 10:38 PM, said:

lol using tier 6 tanks for calculation is your biggest mistake

 

I used it because it ts the average tier of blitz players no one has an average of tier 10 and no one can afford to play 4,000 games in a row in a tier 10 vehicle. 
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View PostBachus131, on 22 October 2018 - 09:16 PM, said:

If you are trying to win one or the other each is pretty unobtainable.

A 50% player would have to play 10 hours a day every day of the event to get  Tankenstein.

The same player could play for 12 hours a day every day of the event and not have enough Biogas to get Gravedigger without spending gold.  

In fact the final stage for Gravedigger  requires more Biogas than the entire line for Tankenstein. 

=  Another Wargaming Gold Scamming event.

25,500 for Tankenstein / 60 (average tier 6 win gives 60 biogas) = 425 wins with an average 50% win rate you need 850 games at an average of 5 minutes a game = 71 hours of playtime. 

And the final stage for Gravedigger is 2,000 more than the total for Tankenstein so don't really need to show the math to see it is impossible even for a 70% player to obtain. 

 

You’re taking some liberties with your math. 

 

If you really want the tank, play tier 10. 255 games at a 48% winrate is 531 games. At 54% it’s 472 games. So over 10 days, it’s about 50 games/day.

 

If you have a job, family life, etc that’s a lot,  but how bad do you want it for free? What’s $25-$50 worth to you from a time perspective?



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View PostBachus131, on 23 October 2018 - 09:40 AM, said:

 

I used it because it ts the average tier of blitz players no one has an average of tier 10 and no one can afford to play 4,000 games in a row in a tier 10 vehicle. 

 

I can,  but really you should stay in school, as it is nowhere close to 4K games in X for the GraveDigger. 

   Maybe if you are a 10% WR player in X, but...

 

You need 400 wins in X 

   Or 800 wins in tier 5...

 

I need 109 more wins in X 

   Not impossible at all. 

 

 


 
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BorisBaddenov #34 Posted 23 October 2018 - 04:57 PM

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View PostBachus131, on 23 October 2018 - 06:22 AM, said:

 

Show me the math.   

If you do the math you may find you are not as close as you think since the final stage is larger than all the others combined.  The Tankenstein is possible but the Gravedigger is not.

 

I'm happy to show you the math :)     I'm not a very good player in tier 10 - 46% career - but I don't really play tier 10 (not since March/April).   Tier 10 wins give me 100 Bio Gas.  The Gravedigger is the tank I want out of this event - I find it to be quite unique, while the Tankenstien not so much.

 

There are 8 stages all together, each requires an amount of BioGas and Cookies.   I'm only listing the requirements for the GD.

 

Stage 1:  100 BioGas 500 Cookies

Stage 2: 300 BioGas 1500 Cookies

Stage 3: 500 BioGas 1500 Cookies

Stage 4: 1000 BioGas 2000 Cookies

Stage 5: 2000 BioGas 2000 Cookies

Stage 6: 3000 BioGas 2500 Cookies

Stage 7: 4000 BioGas 3000 Cookies

Stage 8: 27500 BioGas 19000 Cookies

 

With a 46% WR - it is easy to calculate how many games I need to play in order to earn the necessary BioGas.  Below are the number of games I need to play for each stage, rounded up:

 

Stage 1:  100 BioGas 500 Cookies    = 2 games

Stage 2: 300 BioGas 1500 Cookies   = 7 Games

Stage 3: 500 BioGas 1500 Cookies   =  11 Games

Stage 4: 1000 BioGas 2000 Cookies  =  22 Games

Stage 5: 2000 BioGas 2000 Cookies  =  44 Games

Stage 6: 3000 BioGas 2500 Cookies  =  65 Games

Stage 7: 4000 BioGas 3000 Cookies   =  87 Games

Stage 8: 27500 BioGas 19000 Cookies = 598 Games (wow!)

 

836 games in total - playing at 46%.  Figure about 4 minutes a game, that's just about 56 hours of game time for me.  Spread over 10 days - just about 6 hours a day.   I'd call that a grind for sure - but I've also just proven that it is not at all impossible to get the Gravedigger for free.

 

So that's all on paper - here's how I stand so far.

 

I have 6 days and 2 hours remaining.  My event resets at noon my time.  Right now I have 13940 BioGas.  With 38400 required I still need 24460 - I have 6 days, so basically I need 41 wins a day over the next 6 days.  I have been playing at just over 50% - but I'll use 50% here.  I need to play about 80 games a day, at 4 minutes which is about 5 hour and 15 minutes of game play each day.  

 

 

It's going to be a grind-

Boris

 

Edit:  Using 4 min a game - the math says ~5 hours a day.  I've not played that many hours a day over the past few days.  10 games takes me about 30 minutes, so 20 game each hour.  So it might be only 4 hours a day.  

 


Edited by BorisBaddenov, 23 October 2018 - 05:22 PM.

I’ve noticed a strong lack of Spare Parts. Is that intended?

No, it is not. This problem will solve itself with time. Many players have several dozens of vehicles in their Garages, so they don’t have enough Spare Parts for the entire vehicle fleet. But you will gradually collect enough Spare Parts to unlock new slots for purchased tanks in time.


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Maybe if you get close to the Gravedigger but not quite WG will give you a participation trophy. Either that or come out of pocket a few thousand gold and get it. 3000 gold is $10. That should be enough to get the tank for most folks. 
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View Post40_Percenter, on 23 October 2018 - 11:59 AM, said:

Maybe if you get close to the Gravedigger but not quite WG will give you a participation trophy. Either that or come out of pocket a few thousand gold and get it. 3000 gold is $10. That should be enough to get the tank for most folks. 

 

The Scavenger is the participation trophy.

 

 

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I’ve noticed a strong lack of Spare Parts. Is that intended?

No, it is not. This problem will solve itself with time. Many players have several dozens of vehicles in their Garages, so they don’t have enough Spare Parts for the entire vehicle fleet. But you will gradually collect enough Spare Parts to unlock new slots for purchased tanks in time.


SullBhit #37 Posted 23 October 2018 - 09:11 PM

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OP - I likely won’t get a tank without some gold.  That said, here are the things I’m taking away that make me REALLY happy with the event:

- I got the tier 5 event tank free.  Easy Peasy.
- I’m going to get a bunch of free boosters or free XP (haven’t decided, yet).  All free.
- I’m really enjoying Mad Games.  It’s a good departure from the regular games for a little while.  I like trying to make the skills work on different tanks.  Just.  Plain.  Fun.
- I’ve been able to grind the modules and crew on 2 tanks with no impact on stats!  Bonus!
- I’ve been able to grind a whole bunch of credits, Crew XP, Free XP, and Elite XP during the event.

Would I like to get both tier 7 event tanks... sure!  But I’m still happy with the above goodies and fun if I fall short.

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View PostBachus131, on 22 October 2018 - 01:16 PM, said:

If you are trying to win one or the other each is pretty unobtainable.

A 50% player would have to play 10 hours a day every day of the event to get  Tankenstein.

The same player could play for 12 hours a day every day of the event and not have enough Biogas to get Gravedigger without spending gold.  

In fact the final stage for Gravedigger  requires more Biogas than the entire line for Tankenstein. 

=  Another Wargaming Gold Scamming event.

25,500 for Tankenstein / 60 (average tier 6 win gives 60 biogas) = 425 wins with an average 50% win rate you need 850 games at an average of 5 minutes a game = 71 hours of playtime. 

And the final stage for Gravedigger is 2,000 more than the total for Tankenstein so don't really need to show the math to see it is impossible even for a 70% player to obtain. 

 

I'm going to get the Gravedigger  FOR FREE.  Actually, two free tanks as I already have the Scavenger.

 

You are going to continue to make EXCUSES as to why you cannot have a free tank.

 

I'm having a grand time playing Mad Games and earning Biogas.

 

You are on the forums whining like a little kid who didn't getenov™ candy for Halloween.

 

 

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I’ve noticed a strong lack of Spare Parts. Is that intended?

No, it is not. This problem will solve itself with time. Many players have several dozens of vehicles in their Garages, so they don’t have enough Spare Parts for the entire vehicle fleet. But you will gradually collect enough Spare Parts to unlock new slots for purchased tanks in time.


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If you guys really want the gravedigger so badly, then just grind it and pay the remaining 3000 gold or so. If you don't want to pay, it means you don't really want the tank that badly, and means you don't deserve it. 

 


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I got mine this morning. 

   I ended up paying 325 gold as I was bored with the grind. 


 
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